Bug 5466 - SA Rules for some of IADB data say "spam" for things like publishing rDNS and using COI
Summary: SA Rules for some of IADB data say "spam" for things like publishing rDNS and...
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Spamassassin
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Rules (show other bugs)
Version: 3.2.0
Hardware: Other other
: P5 normal
Target Milestone: Undefined
Assignee: SpamAssassin Developer Mailing List
URL: http://spamassassin.apache.org/tests_...
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Reported: 2007-05-17 17:50 UTC by Anne P. Mitchell
Modified: 2017-11-29 19:43 UTC (History)
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Description Anne P. Mitchell 2007-05-17 17:50:30 UTC 
We just noticed (well, had brought to our attention, really), that you've expanded SA's use of our IADB 
data (yay!..it was built that way to make it easy for SA to use!..thank you!)...BUT...also, several of the 
things which one would think would give a sender a "positive" score (i.e. they are doing the right thing) 
or at least not a "spam" score, are in fact giving them a ding.  The following all have a positive ("this 
could be spam") value of 1 (not -1...plus 1):

Sender publishes rDNS
Sender publishes Domain Keys
Confirmed opt-in used more than 50% of the time
Confirmed opt-in used less than 50% of the time (by contrast, Habeas' regular non-confirmed (single) 
opt in gets a -4.3)
All mail is at least opt-in
All email is one-to-one or transactional *only* (no bulk mail at all)
Sends no material that falls within the Michigan or Utah Child Protection Registery (i.e. they *don't* 
send adult materials)

By contrast, our "Scrapes addresses, pure opt-out only", "Accepts unverified sign-ups" and  "Accepts 
unverified sign-ups, gives chance to opt out" actually all have a *negative* score in SA!  Huh??

Something is clearly a little topsy-turvy here;  what can we do to get this sorted out?

Thanks!

Anne

amitchell@isipp.com
Comment 1 Matt Kettler 2007-05-17 18:42:56 UTC 
Don't rely on the score numbers at: 
http://spamassassin.apache.org/tests_3_2_x.html

Most of the rules that are listed as "1" on that list are not actually scored
"1". It looks like the list was generated before all the scores were generated
for the "new" rules.

Check the actual 50_scores.cf

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/spamassassin/branches/3.2/rules/50_scores.cf

Here's the real scores:

core RCVD_IN_IADB_DK 0 # n=1 n=2 n=3
score RCVD_IN_IADB_DOPTIN_GT50 0 # n=1 n=2 n=3
score RCVD_IN_IADB_DOPTIN_LT50 0 # n=1 n=2 n=3
score RCVD_IN_IADB_EDDB 0 -0.001 0 -0.293
score RCVD_IN_IADB_EPIA 0 -0.135 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_GOODMAIL 0 -0.001 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_LISTED 0 -0.001 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_LOOSE 0 -0.001 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_MI_CPEAR 0 -0.001 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_MI_CPR_30 0 -0.001 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_MI_CPR_MAT 0 # n=1 n=2 n=3
score RCVD_IN_IADB_NOCONTROL 0 -0.001 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_OOO 0 # n=1 n=2 n=3
score RCVD_IN_IADB_OPTIN 0 # n=1 n=2 n=3
score RCVD_IN_IADB_OPTIN_GT50 0 -0.499 0 -0.245
score RCVD_IN_IADB_OPTIN_LT50 0 # n=1 n=2 n=3
score RCVD_IN_IADB_OPTOUTONLY 0 -0.001 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_RDNS 0 # n=1 n=2 n=3
score RCVD_IN_IADB_SENDERID 0 -0.001 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_SPF 0 -0.001 0 -0.078
score RCVD_IN_IADB_UNVERIFIED_1 0 -0.001 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_UNVERIFIED_2 0 -0.001 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_UT_CPEAR 0 -0.001 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_UT_CPR_30 0 -0.001 0 -0.001
score RCVD_IN_IADB_UT_CPR_MAT 0 # n=1 n=2 n=3
Comment 2 Justin Mason 2007-05-25 08:46:00 UTC 
Anne -- do those scores that Matt posted make sense?  drop a comment here if
there's still issues.
Comment 3 Anne P. Mitchell 2017-11-29 19:42:54 UTC 
It was just now brought to my attention that this needs closure, I'm so sorry!

Yes, all good.

Thank you!

Anne

Anne P. Mitchell, 
Attorney at Law
Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal anti-spam law)
Legislative Consultant
CEO/President, Institute for Social Internet Public Policy
Legal Counsel: The CyberGreen Institute
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Ret. Professor of Law, Lincoln Law School of San Jose
Ret. Chair, Asilomar Microcomputer Workshop
Comment 4 Anne P. Mitchell 2017-11-29 19:43:24 UTC 
Closed