SA Bugzilla – Bug 6713
Every whitelist description MUST contain URL for SIMPLE reporting complaints/abuse.
Last modified: 2011-12-01 01:36:47 UTC
IMHO next stable SA release should dump every whitelist unless it can provide single URL for simple filling complains (reporting whitelisted spam). Such URL will be included in SA sources/configuration e.g. 50_scores.cf
I think an email address is necessary, not just a URL to a form.
why not provide the exact description /rule you suggest so it can be reviewed by the PMC?
I would suggest: Every remote whitelist (e.g. via DNS) included in SA's default configuration must adhere to the following transparency and complaint standards: It must have a web page, hosted by whitelist operator, that explains the whitelist's listing criteria process for addressing complaints of spam from whitelisted addresses email address for submission of spam received from whitelisted addresses Complaints must be effectively addressed.
(In reply to comment #3) > I would suggest: > > Every remote whitelist (e.g. via DNS) included in SA's default configuration > must adhere to the following transparency and complaint standards: > > It must have a web page, hosted by whitelist operator, that explains the > whitelist's > > listing criteria > > process for addressing complaints of spam from whitelisted addresses > > email address for submission of spam received from whitelisted addresses > > Complaints must be effectively addressed. guys.. bugzilla is not the right place for this kind of discussion. Suggest you move this to the sa-users list and return here when you have the rules' descriptions, and all coordinated with the "whitelist operator", wrapped up, ready to go for reviewal.
My goal is to purge (from SA) whitelists with abuse reporting looking "like intentionally hidden/discouraging". I am not against adding extra requirements suggested by Greg.
(In reply to comment #5) > My goal is to purge (from SA) whitelists with abuse reporting looking "like > intentionally hidden/discouraging". I am not against adding extra requirements > suggested by Greg. I honestly don't even know what people are talking about. What's a rule or rule they are talking about? As far as rules for things, one size fits all rules are very difficult to craft and would likely not be ready for version 3.4.0.
My "request for improvement" has been triggered by (yet another) complaint about senderscorecertified.com at news:pl.internet.mordplik (mordplik=>killfile). Another case can be found at: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/spamassassin/users/159915?do=post_view_threaded IMHO Whitelist does not deserve -5.0 points without EASY for find/follow complaints/spam reporting procedure. file 50_scores.cf: # ReturnPath Certified # http://www.returnpath.net/internetserviceprovider/certification/ # CERTIFIED is a subset of SAFE, thus the score is cumulative. # -2 + -3 = -5 points for CERTIFIED score RCVD_IN_RP_CERTIFIED 0.0 -3.0 0.0 -3.0 score RCVD_IN_RP_SAFE 0.0 -2.0 0.0 -2.0
(In reply to comment #7) > My "request for improvement" has been triggered by (yet another) complaint > about senderscorecertified.com at news:pl.internet.mordplik While I do agree in general, that abuse reporting for whitelists should be easy to find (and exactly this has been a long-ish debate years ago)... RCVD_IN_RP_CERTIFIED Sender is in Return Path Certified (trusted relay) Asking Google for the obvious, given the SA description line above spamassassin Return Path Certified yields the Rules/RCVD_IN_BSP_TRUSTED in the SA wiki as second hit. A rather short, informative page, even *including* an email address for complaints. And bug 5977 for that matter. FWIW, previous complaints ultimately led to exactly this, an easy method of reporting to RP about abuse. Other than the page name not being in sync with the rule name *sigh*, what else is missing here?
And bug 5977 comment 11 actually mentions the email address I had in mind, specifically added for SA users. So this is a wiki documentation issue?