Issue 101604

Summary: System wide preferences get lost when updating
Product: Installation Reporter: Uwe Altmann <ooo>
Component: codeAssignee: AOO issues mailing list <issues>
Status: CONFIRMED --- QA Contact:
Severity: Trivial    
Priority: P2 CC: ingo.schmidt-rosbiegal, issues, nesshof, philipp.lohmann, stephan.bergmann.secondary
Version: OOo 3.1 RC2Keywords: aqua
Target Milestone: ---   
Hardware: All   
OS: All   
Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT Latest Confirmation in: ---
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Description Uwe Altmann 2009-05-06 13:40:20 UTC
For Mac OS X, system wide preferences (aka "share"-folder) are installed within
the OOo application package folder. This results in loosing all changes when
updating the application.
For Mac OS X, recommended location for such settings is "/Library/Application
Support" (Systems Library, not users').

(Maybe this could be done having replaced "share" folder by an alias to that
location)
Comment 1 philipp.lohmann 2009-05-06 16:06:56 UTC
This is not mac specific, the share folders are within the application on all
platforms. but let's ask sb who invented 3 layer office whether there are plans
to move the "share" folders outside the office hirarchy.
Comment 2 philipp.lohmann 2009-05-06 16:26:01 UTC
One note is mac specific after all: there is no update installation on the mac.
This might save the contents of the share folder on other platforms I presume.
Comment 3 Uwe Altmann 2009-05-06 16:30:24 UTC
Thats true, but afaik only on a Mac we don't have an installer which replaces the contents of this folder 
selectivly butd oan install always by replacing the whole folder and so the "share"-Folder gets "resetted".
Comment 4 Stephan Bergmann 2009-05-07 08:05:06 UTC
@pl:  No, at least from the perspective of the three layer change, there is no
intent to move shared data outside the OOo installation tree.

@is:  Please clarify whether and how update installations on other platforms
than Mac OS X preserve modifications to shared data.
Comment 5 ingo.schmidt-rosbiegal 2009-05-08 16:18:25 UTC
Updates that are not delivered as patches but as full respins, remove the
installed product (Windows) or replace the installed packages (Unix) completely.
The content of the "share"-folder is then lost. System wide preferences should
not be stored inside the Office installation directory. For Windows there is for
example the folder "Documents and Settings/All Users/Application Data".
Comment 6 Uwe Altmann 2009-12-21 15:09:59 UTC
Besides that maybe interesting discussion of the principles of a three layer application install - is there 
any plan to "save" the systemwide installed content (i.e. extensions) on a mac over an product update? 
There is not and perhaps never will be an installer routine for Mac which could care for that. But as with 
windows also a mac has a special place reserved for systemwide application data.
Added data_loss keyword because that is what happens. 
Comment 7 philipp.lohmann 2011-03-22 14:16:11 UTC
Removing data loss keyword. It is correct that data in the shared folder gets lost here, but that is the case on any platform where you uninstall a version and install a newer one (see is's remark earlier on).

There would be basically two solutions for this:

- switch to a package based installation on MacOSX (instead of the current D&D based one). Which has its own set of problems (like not generic Uninstaller), but would probably allow to install in /System/Library and update files there
- create a special "update" installer program that somehow finds the old installation and replaces files in there.

Anyway this is a feature request and not a bug fix, therefore I'll change this to "Enhancement". Will also assign the issue to is, who would know better about installtion than "macport".