# Issue 125985

Summary: Product: Corrections for EN UI and Help (v4.2.0) General Aivaras Stepukonis ui AOO issues mailing list CONFIRMED --- Normal P3 1bbflr+8hj7io6nhoxww, astepukonis, hanya.runo, josef.latt, knmc, kschenk, mseidel, oooforum, pescetti, rb.henschel 4.2.0-dev 4.2.0 All All DEFECT 4.2.0-dev ---

 Aivaras Stepukonis 2014-12-31 16:36:06 UTC In the process of translating the UI and Help files, every once in a while, I run into strings which seem to need correction in the English source. I am opening this issue to list those strings and describe what needs fixing in them. Aivaras Stepukonis 2014-12-31 17:35:21 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\shared.po String: main0108.xhp#par_id2783898.help.text Enable an Internet connection for %PRODUCTNAME. If you need a Proxy, check the %PRODUCTNAME Proxy settings in %PRODUCTNAME - PreferencesTools - Options - Internet. Then choose %PRODUCTNAME - PreferencesTools - Options - Online Update - Check for Updates to check for the availability of a newer version of your office suite. The path specified after "Then choose [...]" is: Tools - Options - Online Update... It should be: Tools - Options - OpenOffice - Online Update... Aivaras Stepukonis 2014-12-31 17:40:06 UTC Path: ...aoo40-lt\officecfg\registry\data\org\openoffice\Office\UI.po: String: #: WriterCommands.xcu#..WriterCommands.UserInterface.Commands..uno_InsertFootnote.Label.value.text msgid "Insert Footnote/Endnote Directly" Instead, the text should be "Insert Footnote". hanya 2015-01-01 16:01:43 UTC Help description for Writer - Insert - Index and Tables - Index and Tables... - Entries tab - All button is bad. In par_id3155137 of /text/swriter/01/04120221.xhp file describes: > Applies the current settings without closing the dialog. But the All button applies the settings of the current level shown in the tab page to the other levels. hanya 2015-01-02 11:35:54 UTC "b" character is lacked from word "box" in paragraph par_id3155898 of swriter/guide/header_with_chapter.xhp > In the Style ox, hanya 2015-01-08 16:14:36 UTC UI, issue 116863 hanya 2015-01-08 16:17:05 UTC issue 28353 Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-01-11 12:51:42 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\shared.po String: main0213.xhp#bm_id3157896.help.text toolbars; Form Navigation barNavigation bar;formssorting; data in formsdata; sorting in formsforms;sorting data Comment: some instances of semicolon are followed by a space, some are not. jolatt 2015-01-12 08:16:18 UTC (In reply to Aivaras Stepukonis from comment #2) > Path: ...aoo40-lt\officecfg\registry\data\org\openoffice\Office\UI.po: > > String: #: > WriterCommands.xcu#..WriterCommands.UserInterface.Commands.. > uno_InsertFootnote.Label.value.text > > msgid "Insert Footnote/Endnote Directly" > > Instead, the text should be "Insert Footnote". Correct wording should be: "Insert Footnote Directly" Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-01-16 22:59:06 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\shared.po String: main0650.xhp#par_id9116183.help.text Before you can use a JDBC driver, you need to add its class path. Choose %PRODUCTNAME - PreferencesTools - Options - %PRODUCTNAME- Java, and click the Class Path button. After you add the path information, restart %PRODUCTNAME. Is: %PRODUCTNAME- Should be: %PRODUCTNAME - Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-01-16 23:01:25 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\shared.po String: main0650.xhp#par_id3153822.11.help.text Your modifications at the %PRODUCTNAME - PreferencesTools - Options - $[officename] - Java tab page will be used even if the Java Virtual Machine (JVM, a virtual machine for the Java platform) already has been started. After modifications to the ClassPath you must restart$[officename]. The same is true for modifications under %PRODUCTNAME - PreferencesTools - Options - Internet - Proxy. Only the two boxes "Http Proxy" and "Ftp Proxy" and their ports don't require a restart, they will be evaluated when you click OK. Is: Http Proxy Should be: HTTP Proxy Is: Ftp Proxy Should be: FTP Proxy SVN Robot 2015-01-20 22:34:43 UTC "kschenk" committed SVN revision 1653397 into trunk: #i125985# Suggested by: Aivaras Stepukonis Comment #1 SVN Robot 2015-01-20 22:36:04 UTC "kschenk" committed SVN revision 1653398 into trunk: #i125985# Suggested by: Aivaras Stepukonis Comment #7 SVN Robot 2015-01-20 23:06:46 UTC "kschenk" committed SVN revision 1653401 into trunk: #i125985# Suggested by: Aivaras Stepukonis Comment #9 Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-01-21 13:11:09 UTC Text incongruity between UI and Help. In UI we have: #: DrawImpressCommands.xcu#..DrawImpressCommands.UserInterface.Commands..uno_ShowRuler.Label.value.text msgid "Ruler" and #: WriterCommands.xcu#..WriterCommands.UserInterface.Commands..uno_Ruler.Label.value.text msgid "Ruler" In both instances, the word "Ruler" is in the singular. It should be in the plural, though, as it refers collectively to both the vertical and horizontal rulers. The plural would be consistent with references to the same item in Help. See: Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\simpress.po String: main0209.xhp#par_id3153820.3.help.text To show or hide the rulers, choose View - Rulers. Here the same item is correctly referred to in the plural (i.e. "Rulers"). Kay 2015-01-21 16:55:11 UTC (In reply to Aivaras Stepukonis from comment #10) > Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\shared.po > > String: main0650.xhp#par_id3153822.11.help.text > > Your modifications at the select="MAC">%PRODUCTNAME - PreferencesTools - > Options - $[officename] - Java tab > page will be used even if the Java Virtual Machine (JVM, a virtual machine > for the Java platform) already has been started. After modifications to the > ClassPath you must restart$[officename]. The same is true for modifications > under %PRODUCTNAME > - PreferencesTools - > Options - Internet - Proxy. Only the > two boxes "Http Proxy" and "Ftp Proxy" and their ports don't require a > restart, they will be evaluated when you click OK. > > Is: Http Proxy > > Should be: HTTP Proxy > > Is: Ftp Proxy > > Should be: FTP Proxy I failed to note that revision 1653401 also fixed this one. Kay 2015-01-21 16:58:59 UTC re comments 2 & 8. The Writer User guide refers to both Footnotes and Endnotes, so I am not sure anything should be changed here. https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Writer_Guide/Using_footnotes_and_endnotes I will continue to work on other issues here. Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-01-21 22:37:29 UTC (In reply to Kay from comment #16) > re comments 2 & 8. > > The Writer User guide refers to both Footnotes and Endnotes, so I am not > sure anything should be changed here. > > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/ > Writer_Guide/Using_footnotes_and_endnotes > > I will continue to work on other issues here. The issue concerns the caption text that shows up when hovering the mouse over the tool button for inserting a footnote. That is to say, it occurs in the UI, not in the Help (i.e. User guide). Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-01-25 00:54:28 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\smath.po String: main0503.xhp#par_id3153001.4.help.text Use the $[officename] Math Commands window to enter and edit formulas. As you make entries in the Commands window, you see the results in the document. To maintain an overview when creating long and complicated formulas, use the Formula Cursor on the Tools bar. When this function is activated, the cursor location within the Commands window is also shown in the text window. I'm having some doubts about the expressions (1) "Commands window" and (2) "document" in the sentence "As you make entries in the Commands window, you see the results in the document". Regarding (1): it is more of a pane than a window. A window is what one opens by choosing Window - New Window. (1) is just a part of that window, i.e. a pane. (Interestingly enough, this very pane is called "the equation editor" on "http://www.openoffice.org/product/math.html"). Regarding (2): it would seem more accurate to refer to it as a document pane or, as it is done later on in the paragraph, the "text window" (i.e. "text pane"). Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-01-25 01:39:35 UTC To follow up on Comment 18, "commands window" may be defined as "formula input pane" or "formula entry pane" and "document" or "text window" as "formula view pane". SVN Robot 2015-01-25 09:53:16 UTC "hanya" committed SVN revision 1654634 into trunk: #i125985# wrong description about All button on index dialog, Comment 3 SVN Robot 2015-01-25 09:56:24 UTC "hanya" committed SVN revision 1654635 into trunk: #i125985# character b lacked from word box, Comment 4 Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-01-27 18:05:55 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter.po String: main0213.xhp#par_id3154239.3.help.text By double-clicking on the ruler, you can open the Paragraph dialog and assign direct paragraph formatting for the current paragraph or all selected paragraphs. Is: ...on the ruler... should be: ...on the horizontal ruler... Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-01-27 19:21:50 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter.po String: main0503.xhp#par_id3147768.5.help.text$[officename] Writer lets you create both basic documents, such as memos, faxes, letters , resumes and merge documents, as well as long and complex or multi-part documents, complete with bibliographies, reference tables and indexes. Is: ..., letters ,... Should be: ..., letters,... Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-01-27 19:44:09 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter.po String: main0503.xhp#par_id3147239.10.help.text $[officename] offers a wide variety of options to design documents. Use the Styles and Formatting window to create, assign and modify styles for paragraphs, individual characters, frames and pages. In addition, the Navigator helps you to quickly move around inside your documents, lets you look at your document in an outline view, and keeps track of the objects that you have inserted into your document. Is:$[officename]... Should be: \$[officename] Writer... Kay 2015-01-27 21:54:35 UTC (In reply to Aivaras Stepukonis from comment #17) > (In reply to Kay from comment #16) > > re comments 2 & 8. > > > > The Writer User guide refers to both Footnotes and Endnotes, so I am not > > sure anything should be changed here. > > > > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/ > > Writer_Guide/Using_footnotes_and_endnotes > > > > I will continue to work on other issues here. > > The issue concerns the caption text that shows up when hovering the mouse > over the tool button for inserting a footnote. That is to say, it occurs in > the UI, not in the Help (i.e. User guide). I understand that and since these two terms are referenced in the User Guide and presumably by users, the existing UI menu item "Insert Footnote/Endnote Directly" should be left as it is. Well the "Directly" could be omitted I guess. These terms are also used in the Insert menu item. Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-02-08 15:01:54 UTC (In reply to Kay from comment #25) > (In reply to Aivaras Stepukonis from comment #17) > > (In reply to Kay from comment #16) > > > re comments 2 & 8. > > > > > > The Writer User guide refers to both Footnotes and Endnotes, so I am not > > > sure anything should be changed here. > > > > > > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/ > > > Writer_Guide/Using_footnotes_and_endnotes > > > > > > I will continue to work on other issues here. > > > > The issue concerns the caption text that shows up when hovering the mouse > > over the tool button for inserting a footnote. That is to say, it occurs in > > the UI, not in the Help (i.e. User guide). > > I understand that and since these two terms are referenced in the User Guide > and presumably by users, the existing UI menu item "Insert Footnote/Endnote > Directly" should be left as it is. Well the "Directly" could be omitted I > guess. > > These terms are also used in the Insert menu item. I understand the motive for doing so, but I cannot justify it because the description remains false: one cannot insert endnotes by clicking the icon that allows inserting footnotes and only footnotes. Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-02-08 15:05:22 UTC Path: ...\aoo40-lt\sw\source\ui\utlui.po String: #: poolfmt.src#STR_POOLCOLL_HTML_BLOCKQUOTE.string.text Is: "Quotations" Should probably be: "Citation" Keith N. McKenna 2015-02-08 18:47:48 UTC (In reply to Aivaras Stepukonis from comment #26) > (In reply to Kay from comment #25) > > (In reply to Aivaras Stepukonis from comment #17) > > > (In reply to Kay from comment #16) > > > > re comments 2 & 8. > > > > > > > > The Writer User guide refers to both Footnotes and Endnotes, so I am not > > > > sure anything should be changed here. > > > > > > > > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/ > > > > Writer_Guide/Using_footnotes_and_endnotes > > > > > > > > I will continue to work on other issues here. > > > > > > The issue concerns the caption text that shows up when hovering the mouse > > > over the tool button for inserting a footnote. That is to say, it occurs in > > > the UI, not in the Help (i.e. User guide). > > > > I understand that and since these two terms are referenced in the User Guide > > and presumably by users, the existing UI menu item "Insert Footnote/Endnote > > Directly" should be left as it is. Well the "Directly" could be omitted I > > guess. > > > > These terms are also used in the Insert menu item. > > I understand the motive for doing so, but I cannot justify it because the > description remains false: one cannot insert endnotes by clicking the icon > that allows inserting footnotes and only footnotes. The only change I see that is needed here is in the description on the toolbar button. The button that says insert footnote/endnot directly should be changed to insert footnote directly as this is what the button does. There is already a button to insert endnote directly. The use of the word directly is correct English in that those buttons by-pass the insert dialog thereby inserting the footnote or end note directly into the document. jolatt 2015-02-09 06:57:16 UTC (In reply to Keith N. McKenna from comment #28) > The only change I see that is needed here is in the description on the > toolbar button. The button that says insert footnote/endnot directly should > be changed to insert footnote directly as this is what the button does. > There is already a button to insert endnote directly. The use of the word > directly is correct English in that those buttons by-pass the insert dialog > thereby inserting the footnote or end note directly into the document. +1 Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-02-09 12:19:23 UTC (In reply to jolatt from comment #29) (In reply to Keith N. McKenna from comment #28) > > > The only change I see that is needed here is in the description on the > toolbar button. The button that says insert footnote/endnot directly should > be changed to insert footnote directly as this is what the button does. > There is already a button to insert endnote directly. The use of the word > directly is correct English in that those buttons by-pass the insert dialog > thereby inserting the footnote or end note directly into the document. It is correct, yet redundant and as such out of place. The description of a toolbar icon should be treated as a case of contextual classification, not of the general taxonomy of the software (as, say, in a conceptually laid out manual). Let visit the local groceries shop and look at the department names: Bread | Dairy | Meat | Beverages | Candy All good. But what if one finds: Bread | Dairy | Pork | Beverages | Candy Wrong classification! A particular type of meat is juxtaposed to more general types of food. Same goes for describing as "Insert Footnote Directly" (pork) what should simply be "Insert Footnote" (meat). Let us mind the context - it is a description of an icon side-by-side with other icons, in a toolbar side-by-side with other toolbars: ...New | Open | Page Preview | Bold | Italics | Gallery | Special Character... It is not the right place to distinguish between different types of inserting footnotes (they're not even being juxtaposed here as options) because one is distinguishing here between different types of tools (printing vs opening, previewing vs navigating and so on). So a better idea in this particular case to just say "meat" instead of specifying it's "pork" (even if that meat is in fact pork). That is to say, "Insert Footnote" is more adequate to the immediate context of the icon than "Insert Footnote Directly." jolatt 2015-02-09 14:20:37 UTC (In reply to Aivaras Stepukonis from comment #30) > So a better idea in this particular case to just say "meat" instead of > specifying it's "pork" (even if that meat is in fact pork). That is to say, > "Insert Footnote" is more adequate to the immediate context of the icon than > "Insert Footnote Directly." No and no over again. "Insert Footnote Directly" describes the beviour correctly. And consider that other insert functions open a dialog and/or have a dropdown list for further settings/options. Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-02-09 14:40:37 UTC (In reply to jolatt from comment #31) > (In reply to Aivaras Stepukonis from comment #30) > > > So a better idea in this particular case to just say "meat" instead of > > specifying it's "pork" (even if that meat is in fact pork). That is to say, > > "Insert Footnote" is more adequate to the immediate context of the icon than > > "Insert Footnote Directly." > > No and no over again. > > "Insert Footnote Directly" describes the beviour correctly. > And consider that other insert functions open a dialog and/or have a > dropdown list for further settings/options. I've make my point. We seem to disagree (I say "seem" because from your remark I'm not sure you're getting my point). It's cool. Let's move on. SVN Robot 2015-02-10 21:44:38 UTC "kschenk" committed SVN revision 1658822 into trunk: #i125985# Suggested by Keith McKenna, Comment 28. 1bbflr+8hj7io6nhoxww 2015-02-16 10:59:03 UTC (In reply to jolatt from comment #31) > And consider that other insert functions open a dialog and/or have a > dropdown list for further settings/options. That is the reason why ellipsis are added to commands. +1 to dropping the word "directly". Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-03-11 11:42:59 UTC Path: ...\aoo40-lt\sd\source\ui String: #: menuids3_tmpl.src#MN_ENTER_GROUP_IMPRESS.SID_ENTER_GROUP.menuitem.text Path: ...\aoo40-lt\svx String: #: globlmn_tmpl.hrc#ITEM_POPUP_ENTER_GROUP.#define.text Is: "Edit Group" Should be: "Enter Group" Why: 1) "Edit Group" is the opposite action of "Exit Group"; 2) "Edit Group" allows editing the individual objects constituting the group and not the group itself (i.e. it allows entering the group and editing its constituents, not the group itself). Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-03-16 21:22:56 UTC Sorry, the paths were incomplete. The first one: ...\aoo40-lt\sd\source\ui\app.po The second one: ...aoo40-lt\svx\inc.po Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-05-10 22:06:50 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po String: 00000401.xhp#par_id3146962.33.help.text Choose File - Send - Create AutoAbstract Is: File - Send - Create AutoAbstract Should be: File - Send - Create AutoAbstract... Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-05-10 22:17:59 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000401.xhp#par_id3156397.34.help.text Choose File - Send - AutoAbstract to Presentation Is: File - Send - AutoAbstract to Presentation Should be: File - Send - AutoAbstract to Presentation... Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-05-10 22:19:32 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000402.xhp#par_id3154485.2.help.text Choose Edit - AutoText Is: Edit - AutoText Should be: Edit - AutoText... Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-05-10 22:23:15 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000402.xhp#par_id3149349.5.help.text Choose Edit - Exchange Database Is: Edit - Exchange Database Should be: Edit - Exchange Database... Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-05-10 22:25:16 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000402.xhp#par_id3146316.6.help.text Choose Edit - Fields Is: Edit - Fields Should be: Edit - Fields... Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-05-10 22:29:27 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000402.xhp#par_id3154505.7.help.text Choose Edit - Footnotes Is: Edit - Footnotes Should be: Edit - Footnote/Endnote... Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-05-10 22:33:17 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000402.xhp#par_id3153737.8.help.text Choose Edit - Index Entry Is: Edit - Index Entry Should be: Edit - Index Entry... Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-05-10 22:36:49 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000402.xhp#par_id3148769.9.help.text Choose Format - Sections Is: Format - Sections Should be: Format - Sections... Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-05-10 22:45:38 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000402.xhp#par_id3147168.17.help.text Choose Edit - Bibliography Entry Is: Edit - Bibliography Entry Should be: Edit - Bibliography Entry... Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-05-10 22:59:58 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000404.xhp#par_id3149130.2.help.text Choose Insert - Manual Break Is: Insert - Manual Break Should be: Insert - Manual Break... Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-05-10 23:10:05 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000404.xhp#par_id3148386.4.help.text Choose Insert - Fields - Other Is: Insert - Fields - Other Should be: Insert - Fields - Other... Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-05-10 23:13:55 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000404.xhp#par_id3145411.63.help.text Choose Insert - Cross-reference Is: Insert - Cross-reference Should be: Insert - Cross-reference... Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-05-10 23:20:20 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000404.xhp#par_id3149810.7.help.text Choose Insert - Section Is: Insert - Section Should be: Insert - Section... Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-05-10 23:34:39 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000404.xhp#par_id3155899.69.help.text Choose Insert - Section - Section tab or choose Format - Sections Is: Insert - Section - Section Should be: Insert - Section... - Section Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-05-10 23:39:23 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po 00000404.xhp#par_id3154197.103.help.text Choose Insert - Section - Indents tab or choose Format - Sections Is: Insert - Section... - Indents Should be: Insert - Section... - Section Is: Format - Sections Should be: Format - Sections... Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-05-19 17:30:05 UTC OK, there are too many instances of omitted "..." in the description of menu items to cite them all here. I would suggest to go over the whole document and insert the missing "...", making references to menu item precise. Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-05-19 19:30:04 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po String: 00000405.xhp#par_idN10739.help.text Is: Open Styles and Formatting window. Click the New Style from Selection icon and keep the mouse button pressed. Choose Load Styles from the submenu. Should be: Open Styles and Formatting window. Click the New Style from Selection icon and choose Load Styles from the submenu. Note: there is actually no need to keep the mouse button pressed. Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-05-19 19:49:58 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po String: 00000405.xhp#par_id3149109.29.help.text Is: Choose Format - Styles and Formatting - open context menu Modify/New - Footnote tab Should be: Choose Format - Styles and Formatting - open context menu Modify/New - Footnote tab (for Page Styles) Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-05-19 19:54:07 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po String: 00000405.xhp#par_id3147094.159.help.text Is: Choose Format - Sections - Options button Footnotes/Endnotes tab Should be: Choose Format - Sections - Options button - Footnotes/Endnotes tab Aivaras Stepukonis 2015-05-19 20:04:12 UTC Path: ...\helpcontent2\source\text\swriter\00.po String: 00000405.xhp#par_id3156364.142.help.text Is: Choose Format - Styles and Formatting - open context menu Modify/New (for Numbering Styles) Should be: Choose Format - Styles and Formatting - open context menu Modify/New (for List Styles) oooforum (fr) 2019-10-03 16:21:00 UTC Well, all these modifications can be input through Github: https://github.com/apache/openoffice You can propose directly some push requests about that.