Issue 14036

Summary: Menus: File>PageSetup /Landscape setting prints portrait in Spreadsheet / Writer
Product: gsl Reporter: Unknown <non-migrated>
Component: codeAssignee: AOO issues mailing list <issues>
Status: CONFIRMED --- QA Contact:
Severity: Trivial    
Priority: P3 CC: frank.loehmann, issues, kendy, lilliewilde, mmeeks, philipp.lohmann, utomo.prawiro
Version: OOo 1.0.2Keywords: oooqa, usability
Target Milestone: OOo 3.x   
Hardware: PC   
OS: All   
Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT Latest Confirmation in: ---
Developer Difficulty: ---

Description Unknown 2003-05-02 18:02:19 UTC
When I set the Printer Settings to landscape, the printed spreadsheet comes out

After closing and reopening the spreadsheet, the Landscape setting was still
active and portrait was still printed.

Windows XP
OO 1.0.2
Brother 1240
Comment 1 christof.pintaske 2003-05-05 13:12:33 UTC
cp->ssa: I'm not sure if "Format -> Page" is the required setting.
Please have a look. 
Comment 2 stephan_schaefer 2003-05-07 13:36:53 UTC
SSA: You actualy have to use Format->Page to specify the page layout.
The printer settings are for page layout are ignored.

SSA->FL: I see a big usability problem here. Users are used to the
printer settings dialog from other applications and expect landscape
printouts when choosing it. If we have really no solution to the
problem (due to multiple tables with different orientation in a single
print job) , we should at least warn the user if he actually changes
the orientation in the printer settings.
Comment 3 jensja 2003-06-02 11:40:02 UTC
*** Issue 7028 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 4 jensja 2003-06-02 11:41:14 UTC
*** Issue 15183 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 5 chris319 2003-08-17 23:11:01 UTC
Suggestion: Format -> Page should go away entirely and be merged with
File -> Printer Settings as that is where it appears in 99.9% of the
applications I use (oo.o being the 0.1%). Users are sure to find it there.

There are still maladies in landscape printing: The left margin is
non-existent, in fact the printer cuts off the first character of the
leftmost SS cell. In addition, the header and footer are not
horizontally centered. Page preview looks OK -- I hope this isn't a
Linux/CUPS printer driver issue.

Printing on Letter paper under Linux on HP LaserJet 6L.
Comment 6 philipp.lohmann 2003-08-18 10:14:41 UTC
Format Page should definitely stay as otherwise it would not be
possible to have documents with different layouts for different pages.
But the printer dialogues should be redesigned so that one cannot
select things that have really no meaning.
Comment 7 utomo99 2003-09-24 08:54:52 UTC
I agree that this is usability problem if people think can change the
print setting, but cannot. we must try to solve this problem. or find
the middle solutions before 2.0. we cannot leave it like that. It is

Note: Sorry, My Printer Ink is empty now, So I cannot try to print
using OOo 1.1 RC5. But I believe it is still exist
Comment 8 frank.loehmann 2003-10-23 17:13:53 UTC
FL: Just a note: We have to keep in mind that the user could use the
printer settings to change the paper orientation to landscape when he
wants to print two (or more) portrait pages on a landscape oriented
paper to save paper.
Comment 9 frank.loehmann 2004-02-05 16:38:59 UTC
FL: The user tries to use this dialog to change the document paper format and
the competition offers a Page Setup entry in the same place.

We need the pager setting dialog (different formats and orientation within a
single document), but we do not need the Printer Settings dialog by default.
This dialog has been introduced in a time when StarOffice needed a printer for
text formatting. Since we do not need to have a installed printer anymore
(printer independent formatting as new default), we can go without this special
dialog, if the printer dependent formatting option in Tools-Options-Text
Document-General-Use printer metrics for document formatting is unchecked. The
system's default printer is set as the default printer for each new document. If
printed on a different printer, the new printer is stored as default.

FL->OS: Please change the following:
- Display the “Printer Settings†menu entry in the File menu only if the printer
dependent formatting option in Tools-Options-Text Document-General-Use printer
metrics for document formatting is checked.

Note: The Print dialog also offers the Properties... button (i.e. to set the
paper orientation orientation for special features like printing two portrait A4
pages on a single A4 landscape paper) to change printer settings, but the dialog
can only be confirmed by printing the document with OK. 

FL->MMP: Since you are responsible for the main menu: Do we want to add a “Page
Setup...†entry after the “Print...†entry that calls the Format – Page dialog
like competitors do? (and keep the menu entry Format - Page in the context
sensitive Format menu as well).
Comment 10 frank.loehmann 2004-02-16 09:14:50 UTC
Comment 11 matthias.mueller-prove 2004-02-19 12:42:37 UTC
changed prio from 2 to 3
Comment 12 matthias.mueller-prove 2004-02-19 12:43:34 UTC
changed summary
Comment 13 flibby05 2004-03-21 10:03:15 UTC
please have also a look at issue 18245.

it describes the behaviour also for Writer and provides again a very
understandable description of the problem.
Comment 14 flibby05 2004-03-21 10:03:49 UTC
*** Issue 18245 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 15 flibby05 2004-03-21 10:04:56 UTC
adding "Writer" to description
Comment 16 matthias.mueller-prove 2004-06-03 12:40:11 UTC
Comment 17 matthias.mueller-prove 2004-08-13 17:43:25 UTC
this wont make it into OOo2. we have feature freeze end of august 2004
Comment 18 jamesm51 2005-03-29 23:43:09 UTC
same problem with OOo 1.1.3 on a linux box.
Comment 19 kendy 2006-08-02 09:42:30 UTC
We have the following patch to workaround this issue:
Comment 20 matthias.mueller-prove 2006-10-31 14:56:19 UTC
according to PL, the patch is just for Unix. It removes the control to choose
the paper orinetation for landscape. I will have a look quite soon (keep the
fingers crossed)
Changing the platform to "All".
Comment 21 mmeeks 2006-10-31 15:11:06 UTC
Thanks mmp - this is a knotty issue I think; Debian / Ubuntu disable our patch -
based on user feedback, which you can find here:

# Disable the printer properties which are unused#583
# related issue:
# also last comment in:
# also

It'd be great to unwind all of this & work out exactly what should be happening ;-)
Comment 22 utomo99 2006-11-19 09:16:52 UTC
mmp can you please update you comments that you will look at the patch
to be working for all platform too ? 
I think it is usability issue.

Comment 23 philipp.lohmann 2007-04-18 15:41:27 UTC
If we decide to omit the landscape control at all, we should remove it as a
whole, not disable the UI on some platforms. So changing type to enhancement.
However it seems to be unclear whether we want that or not. Personally i think
the landscape setting in the printer settings is useless nowadays as the page
style will always override it. Since writer does not ask the printer for its
format anymore when opening a new document, even the paper format is questionable.
Comment 24 Martin Hollmichel 2008-01-28 02:31:30 UTC
set target 3.x
Comment 25 matthias.mueller-prove 2009-09-06 10:57:40 UTC
I am no longer officially active on OOo. Please take over.
Comment 26 matthias.mueller-prove 2009-09-06 11:06:21 UTC
I am no longer officially active on OOo. Please take over.
Comment 27 Rainer Bielefeld 2009-12-28 07:59:22 UTC
*** Issue 107950 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***