Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Full Text Issue Listing
|Summary:||shortcut for "Unformatted text"|
|Status:||CLOSED FIXED||QA Contact:||issues@sw <issues>|
|Priority:||P5 (lowest)||CC:||christoph, cno, issues, moxfox, r.w.waters, rvojta|
|Version:||OOo 1.1 RC2||Keywords:||rfe_eval_ok, usability|
|Issue Type:||ENHANCEMENT||Latest Confirmation in:||---|
|Issue Depends on:|
|Issue Blocks:||103327, 19710, 67805|
Description ruiter 2003-07-29 11:40:43 UTC
Hi, I use 'Edit - Paste Special - Uniformatted text' a lot. It would be very helpfull if there was a standard short-cut key for it. (I now have a macro under CTRL-SHIFT-V). Greetings, Michiel
Comment 1 stefan.baltzer 2003-07-30 15:40:20 UTC
Reassigned to Bettina.
Comment 2 bobharvey 2004-10-03 10:54:04 UTC
I'd like to second this. I do a huge number of tasks which involve paste-unformatted text, in several applications. What is needed is a default keystroke that we can all learn, rather than creating one ourselves. One that can get passed on to other people. I'd also like to see an icon on the menu bars, next to the other paste option. If none of the standards for GUIs include a keystroke, it's time to start a trend!
Comment 3 watersrw 2004-10-17 15:00:32 UTC
Yes, unlike in Word, you can't record a macro for it in OOO. Hence a need either for macro recording paste unformatted or toolbar-button (optional) / shortcut keypress combination.
Comment 4 bobharvey 2004-10-18 21:09:19 UTC
Interesting. 1.9.56 appears to have shift-ctrl-V for 'paste special', which gets us half way there. But I wanted a keystroke for 'paste special - unformatted text'.
Comment 5 rvojta 2004-11-01 18:28:46 UTC
"Edit" -> "Paste special" -> "Unformatted text" is the most used method of special pasting, so it should have the shortcut instead of the "Paste special" dialog. BTW if you are using OOo 1.9.x builds, you can speed up your work with CTRL + SHIFT + V, ENTER -> Paste special dialog, unformatted text is selected, so it's enough to hit ENTER.
Comment 6 watersrw 2004-11-17 16:58:32 UTC
Now that issue 30013 is fixed, you can record a macro and then assign it to a shortcut using toolbar;customize in OOO2.0 series.
Comment 7 watersrw 2005-01-31 21:47:06 UTC
workaround: paste this code into a new macro in basic, assign it to a button or keypress via configure - it will paste unformatted sub unfor dim document as object dim dispatcher as object document = ThisComponent.CurrentController.Frame dispatcher = createUnoService("com.sun.star.frame.DispatchHelper") dim args1(0) as new com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue args1(0).Name = "SelectedFormat" args1(0).Value = 1 dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, ".uno:ClipboardFormatItems", "", 0, args1()) end sub
Comment 8 Mathias_Bauer 2007-07-17 13:53:24 UTC
Comment 9 moxfox 2007-07-17 19:32:10 UTC
*** Issue 15000 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 10 moxfox 2007-07-17 19:40:30 UTC
*** Issue 6795 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 11 moxfox 2007-07-17 19:45:02 UTC
*** Issue 5963 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 12 Olaf Felka 2007-07-17 22:04:10 UTC
@ mox: Please don't change the version entry. We want to know when the issue has been found. If nobody has fixed anything it's simply logical that the issue is present in the current version.
Comment 13 moxfox 2007-07-17 23:36:56 UTC
@ of: OK
Comment 14 Mathias_Bauer 2007-08-23 09:21:55 UTC
Seeing issue 80956 I wonder whether it would be a good idea to combine that somehow though I currently don't have any ideas or plans. Just wanted to mention it so that we keep an eye on both issues when working on this one.
Comment 15 Mathias_Bauer 2007-11-01 19:13:44 UTC
I wonder whether the target 2.4 makes sense - in terms of effort and gain. To introduce a new shortcut I have to touch all acceleration config files in all applications and all languages. These are more than 30 files. And all users that have already changed their keyboard configuration won't get the new shortcut. For 3.0 we will move the shortcut configuration to xcu files, making them localizable and mergeable. This makes things much easier. So I prefer target 3.0. Until then people can use the workaround posted here.
Comment 16 Mathias_Bauer 2008-06-06 17:12:27 UTC
Though I'd love to have it myself, I don't think we can finish it for 3.0. Too many other issues left. :-(
Comment 17 Oliver Specht 2008-07-24 07:16:55 UTC
Component changed to WordProcessor
Comment 18 moxfox 2009-03-02 19:54:13 UTC
This is now fixed in cws mox01. The functionality is currently based on "Paste Unformatted" as provided in Paste Special menu. However, in long term there's a possibility to improve it to work even more along the lines of "Paste and Match Style", i.e. converting the style to target document style when it makes sense. Placement of the command is between Paste and Paste Special, just like in Apple Pages. The shortcut is also the same: CMD-OPTION-SHIFT-V in Mac and CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-V in Win/Linux This is implemented for Writer only for now, but later cws:s could extend it to at least impress.
Comment 19 moxfox 2009-03-02 19:54:48 UTC
Fixed in cws mox01
Comment 20 moxfox 2009-03-02 19:57:50 UTC
*** Issue 19710 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 21 moxfox 2009-03-02 20:00:26 UTC
*** Issue 67805 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 22 rvojta 2009-03-02 21:54:22 UTC
@mox: At first, it's nice to see someone to work on these issues where's not enough developers to finish them sooner. But there're some rules and these rules shouldn't be skipped. Don't take me wrong, I really appreciate your work. 1. Personally, I'd like to see implemented these kind of "basic" commands / menu items for all OpenOffice.org components at once. It has no sense to introduce it in the Writer only if it is applicable to other parts. From my point of view, your mox01 CWS should contain changes for all components (where aplicable) or guarantee that you'll add it to another CWS before 3.2 feature/code freeze. 2. QA representative is not selected by you. You have to ask on dev@qa to get some QA representative. I removed myself from your CWS, because I don't have enough time to do QA. I'm sorry. Or you can ask someone directly if he agrees to do QA of your CWS. But do not assign people without asking them. 3. Specification / Feature mail. As this is enhancement and UI change (new menu item), you should write specification and describe what changes do you want to make and how. So, everyone can easily read what's going on in your CWS/enhancement and how it is done before reading source code. Search Wiki  for "specification" and some samples. Also search for "Feature mail", etc.  http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Main_Page
Comment 23 moxfox 2009-03-17 21:57:51 UTC
1. The only guarantee that this work is actually useful to anybody is to get cws mox01 integrated in a milestone, which, really, is the only true signal that this feature is acceptable in the OOo. Before spending again several months in obscure code with german code comments, this signal of acceptance must happen. (and NO, writer, impress etc are NOT identical even in these simple things) Whether mox01 and later cws:s get in 3.2 in time depends mostly on the speed of the OOo's cws handling infrastructure and processes. 2. mail sent. 3. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Paste_and_Match_Style_Specification, mail sent.
Comment 24 moxfox 2009-03-24 18:05:02 UTC
Announce/feature mails: http://specs.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=announce&msgNo=211 http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=allfeatures&msgNo=3467 ... Install sets: Mac - http://termite.go-oo.org/install_sets/MacIntel-1923-mox01-install_set.zip Linux - http://termite.go-oo.org/install_sets/Ubuntu-7.10-i386-809-mox01-install_set.zip Windows - http://termite.go-oo.org/install_sets/Win-XP2-838-mox01-install_set.zip ... Due to lack of QA volunteers, reassigning to the component owner.
Comment 25 cno 2009-03-26 00:20:02 UTC
Hi *, Installed the windows set. Works as expected. Hope this helps. (See if I can find some Mac and Linux volunteers)
Comment 26 christoph 2009-03-28 12:51:01 UTC
Discussion thread at ux-discuss (User Experience Team): http://ux.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=3270
Comment 27 eric.savary 2009-03-30 12:23:52 UTC
Hi folks! I just stumbled upon this issue lurking at the UX mailing list. It seems that the discussion about this new feature goes in depth now... There is already a Spec, already a CWS, which is Ready for QA. But there was no QA member who should have been there from the start (co-writing the spec). So here I am! :) Oh BTW: I'm member of the (SUN) Writer QA-Team and one of my competence area is "clipboard"... For further discussions... UX-Mailing list...
Comment 28 toucheguy 2009-03-30 14:47:33 UTC
Hello, Installed the Mac version (3.1.0 m42) with the install set provided by Mox (on Mar 24, 2009) on Intel iMac Leopard 10.5.6. It works, both the menu item and the shortcut. I think it is a useful enhancement of the Edit menu. The key combination of the shortcut is a bit awkward, but with some exercise, I will get used to it (maybe combining left Shift-V with right Cmd-Alt).
Comment 29 rvojta 2009-03-30 16:46:25 UTC
The shortcut key (Option-Shift-Cmd-V) shouldn't be changed, at least not on Mac OS X. See ... http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Porting_-_Keyboard_Shortcuts#Alphabet_keys ... if you do want to provide different shortcut for other platforms, feel free to do it. But you have to wait for macshortcuts01 integration. See following page for guide how to define multiplatform shortcuts ... http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:Rvojta/Multiplatform_shortcuts
Comment 30 moxfox 2009-04-04 13:57:16 UTC
Now all changes except the shortcut key are removed. This issue no longer has directly UI visible changes, thus this is (in a way) "implementation details only" change. Any spec stuff is obsolete. Since sophie is the QA person, re-assigning to her.
Comment 31 eric.savary 2009-04-13 22:49:53 UTC
*** Issue 101049 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 32 eric.savary 2009-06-22 23:14:55 UTC
@rvojta: Please explain why we should not use Option-Shift-Cmd-V on MAC OSX. In your table I read: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Porting_-_Keyboard_Shortcuts#Alphabet_keys "Apply the style of the surrounding text to the insert object (Paste and Match Style) not exactly implemented in OO.o, but in the "Paste Special" menu there's "Paste Unformatted", which is almost the same" Is that the "almost" that makes problem? I think we can see other this, can't we?
Comment 33 moxfox 2009-06-23 11:20:34 UTC
@es: Actually rvojta's comment is opposite to what you think. He _wants_ to have Paste unformatted to be Option-Shift-Cmd-V on Mac OS X. And I do agree with him, it's the practically equivalent functionality in OOo.
Comment 34 eric.savary 2009-06-23 13:17:51 UTC
Ok! I suppose at the time he made his comment, the shortcut was something else or in discussion. Forget my comment! Sorry!
Comment 35 eric.savary 2009-06-25 17:42:20 UTC
Reassigning back to me.
Comment 36 eric.savary 2009-06-25 17:48:42 UTC
Test Case Specification should be there soon. http://qa.openoffice.org/ooQAReloaded/TestcaseSpecifications/OpenOffice.org_3.2/Word_Processor/Paste_Unformatted_Text.html Adding feature specification to the issue.
Comment 37 emf 2009-07-24 02:34:05 UTC
I am happy to hear that Ctrl+Alt+Shift combinations will become available. But another good idea would be to be able to choose to Paste Unformatted text when you click on the icon.
Comment 38 eric.savary 2009-07-26 13:28:21 UTC
Verified in CWS mox01. Should be integrated in build 300m53
Comment 39 eric.savary 2009-07-26 22:35:20 UTC