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Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Full Text Issue Listing |
| Summary: | add configurable printdirection | ||
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| Product: | gsl | Reporter: | jhartmann <jhartmann> |
| Component: | code | Assignee: | AOO issues mailing list <issues> |
| Status: | CONFIRMED --- | QA Contact: | |
| Severity: | Trivial | ||
| Priority: | P3 | CC: | issues |
| Version: | OOo 3.2.1 | ||
| Target Milestone: | AOO PleaseHelp | ||
| Hardware: | All | ||
| OS: | All | ||
| Issue Type: | ENHANCEMENT | Latest Confirmation in: | --- |
| Developer Difficulty: | --- | ||
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Description
jhartmann
2003-11-17 12:25:06 UTC
Hi, this is implemented. Have a look at the page styles under the stylist and the respective pages in the Help system. Frank closed worksforme fits better, but known it's set to invalid. So see it more like worksforme. Frank No! It's not implemented. (One can only select "landscape" but not its print-direction.) Please reopen it. Either read carefully what I'm talking about or, if this doesn't match your semantics, please leave your fingers off issues you just don't catch. Thanks. How rude ! Be carefull, you never know who is working on this Issue ! Such harsh comments can lead to a total ignorance of your person and your Issues. Frank If you think I've missunderstood your Issue, so maybe you ask yourself What have I done wrong in my description ? So be more precise and add a document that shows or shows not what you want. If you describe your problem in a better way, maybe people understand what you want. For now I think the feature you want is implemented. Convince me that it is not. Frank How could your ignorance be bigger than it is now: not reading, just closing an issue you didn't really read what it's about, and than still --in full ignorance-- insisting "it's implimented" when you know that you fell short of meeting the topic. You're just spamming. And I, as the Issue-opener, cannot even dispose your spam. Hi dude, I tell you what is implemented. 1) One can chose between portrait and landscape. 2) One can chose if a page style template (and so its protrait-/landscape-setting) is applied to only right pages, only left pages, right and left pages or both but mirrored (which means that page margins are mirrored; has no effect on portrait or landscape). But I'm talking about chosing the print-direction for landscape: either left-to-right (head left, bottom right) or right-to-left (head right, bottom left) - or, as a short-time-workaround , about changing that (default) print-direction from right-to-left (how it is now: page-binding at table-bottom) to left-to-right (binding at the top of the landscape-print). There is nothing what even could be mixed up with this. So how ever often you might use the word "implemented", there's just not point about it. Creating a document to show what I mean? Are you kidding? EVERY document shows it. Everyone knows from experience that document-binding generally takes place at the left of any document. (Just open any book or magazine.) And everyone who prints any OOo-document (e.g. a table or chart) as landscape will notice that the top of his print (e.g. the table top) is printed to the right side of the page. So this clearly means that the binding-side (left) is at the bottom of the landscape-print. So now tell me where a feature to change this already "is implemented". Not I have to convince you of that I don't talk about something what "you thing is implemented" (while you don't tell _WHAT_ the hell this is _YOU_ are talking about). Maybe _YOU_ have to convince anybody that you're being serious about anything. Well, just tell me: _WHAT_ is implemented? (Which buttons, checkboxes, ... shall I select for getting OOo to print landscape from left to right, that is top of landscape on the left side of the page?) No? Come on ... And please stop spamming. Reassining to a VCL guy. JA: Reassigning this enhancement issue to the default owner of enhancements. Stefan Schaefer is neither responsible for deciding on enhancements nor he's responsible for implementing the application specific printing features. ->JA Well, it's not really application-specific (although spreadsheet is most effected by this just because most landscape print are spreadsheets). I change the selected component to GSL. (Although component=printing seems to be appropriate, it's to implement in VCL, even on Windows since the OS's printing architecture doesn't offer this.) Um jeden Rest an Mißverständnissen unter den deutschsprachigen Issue-Verfolgern auszuräumen, füge ich ausnahmsweise eine deutsche Beschreibung bei: Für jede Seite (oder jede Seitenvorlage) kann man wählen, daß sie im Querformat gedruckt wird. Bisher aber bedeutet dies immer, daß der Kopf einer solchen Seite (also bei Tabellen z.B. der Tabellenkopf) auf der rechten Seite des Blattes gedruckt wird, während der Fuß der Seite links landet. Ändern kann man dies bisher nicht. Das hat zur Folge, daß der Fuß (das Ende) einer Querformat-Seite immer auf der Papierseite landet, wo das Papier gewöhnlich gelocht, geheftet, geklebt, gebunden, ... wird. Viele Firmen und Behörden drucken auf vorab gelochtem Papier oder benutzen Drucker mit eingebauten Hefter (d.h. mehrseitige Drucke kommen fertig geheftet aus dem Drucker). Aber auch Otto Normalverbraucher hat ein Problem mit dem bisher immer von rechts nach links gedruckten Querformat, weil er bei mehrseitigen Drucken, die aus teils hoch- und teils querformatigen Seiten bestehen, die querformatigen per Hand umdrehen muß. Denn Querformatseiten, die am Fuß (am unteren Ende z.B. einer Tabelle oder Graphik) gebunden bzw. geheftet sind, sehen erstens unprofessionell aus und sind zweitens nur umständlich les- bzw. betrachtbar. Nicht ohne Grund sind in so gut wie allen guten Brochüren, Handouts usw. querformatige Seiten so gedruckt und eingeheftet/gebunden, daß man sie bequem anschauen kann, also so, daß der Kopf (das obere Ende) links, auf der gebundenen Seite, gedruckt ist. Was OOo fehlt, ist also eine Möglichkeit, auszuwählen, _WIE_ herum Querdruck geschehen soll. Entweder so wie bisher (von rechts nach links), was beim Duplex-Druck auf den linken Seiten Sinn macht (weil die von rechts gebunden sind), oder eben von links nach rechts, was für alle anderen Seiten die einzig sinnvolle Variante wäre. Falls es im UI aufwändig wäre, diese Wahlmöglichkeit einzubauen, wäre als Interimslösung sinnvoll, vorerst einfach die Standard-Druckrichtung für Querformat-Seiten von Rechts-nach-Links auf Links-nach-Rechts zu ändern. Denn die meisten Drucke sind Non-Duplex (und auch beim Duplex-Druck würde sich dadurch zumindest nichts verschlechtern). Jeder, der ein paar Seiten im Querformat druckt, und diese auf der linken Papierseite (da, wo OOo im Moment das untere Ende der Querformate hindruckt) heftet/bindet, wird beim blätternden Betrachten dieser Querformate bemerken, wie umständlich, um nicht zu sagen komisch, das ist ... Ich hoffe, das ist anschaulich genug beschrieben. @jhartmann: SSA is defenitely the wrong owner to do the implementation. PL would be right. Due to we all work for StarOffice none of our delvelopers (e.g. SSA and PL) would do anything without a written specification. That's the job of Bettina (BH), she is the right owner. @Bettina: I totally agree with jhartmann that this a must for Enterprise customers. I don't think if it fit's in OOo 2.o roadmap but we should consider to imlpement it as soon as possible after that milestone. @Peter: Well, thanks. @Bettina: Can I help anyhow? (Same for <a href="http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=22518">issue #22518</a>.) OOPS, forgot to align QA Contact. Comments were still posted to the SC mailing list. Changed title as well. OpenOffice.org Issue Tracker - Feedback Request. The Issue you raised has the status 'New' pending further action, but has not been updated within the last 4 years. Please consider re-testing with one of the latest versions of OOo, as the problem(s) may have already been addressed. Either use the recent stable version: http://download.openoffice.org/index.html or consider trying the new OOo 3 BETA (still in testing): http://download.openoffice.org/3.0beta/ Please report back the outcome so this Issue may be Closed or Progressed as necessary - otherwise it may be Resolved as Invalid in the future. You may also wish to search for (and note) any duplicates of this Issue that may have advanced further by checking the Issue Tracker: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/query.cgi Many thanks, Andrew Cleaning-up and Closing old Issues as part of: ~ The Grand Bug Squash, pre v3 ~ http://marketing.openoffice.org/3.0/announcementbeta.html To grep the issues easier via "requirements" I put the issues currently lying on my owner to the owner "requirements". still valid |