Issue 24845

Summary: Show the bars only when recording changes
Product: Writer Reporter: lduperval <lduperval>
Component: codeAssignee: AOO issues mailing list <issues>
Status: CONFIRMED --- QA Contact:
Severity: Trivial    
Priority: P3 CC: eduardo.michelini, issues, pascal.gygax
Version: OOo 1.1   
Target Milestone: ---   
Hardware: All   
OS: All   
Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT Latest Confirmation in: ---
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Description lduperval 2004-01-27 03:21:24 UTC
I'm interested in change bars that say "Text has changed here, however, you'll
need the original copy if you want to know what changed". I think this is the
best approach when generating a PDF document or printing a document.

<Taken from JHW<s post on the users mailing list, since she put it more
eloquently that I>

This function is needed for producing final copy in many situations. For
example, I've often produced software manuals in which the changed lines or
paragraphs are marked by vertical bars, but the text shows only the latest
version of the text. Readers often want to be able to quickly find the new or
changed info (for example, where the descriptions are of how to use new software
features, or where corrections have been made in the document).

At the moment you can do most of the job by accepting all the deletions (which
then are removed completely from the file), changing the display of additions to
use no special formatting or color, and having change bars turned on. This works
fine unless you don't add something on the same line where you've deleted
something. It's also no good if you want the deletions retained in the file for
archive purposes, though a workaround for that is simply to archive the file
with all the changes included, and then make the final published version from a
copy of that file.
Comment 1 h.ilter 2004-01-27 16:34:20 UTC
Reassigned to BH
Comment 2 dan_higgins 2004-08-19 23:07:59 UTC
The original reporter of this was being extra nice. For professional documents
we must have a way to show change bars without the inserted/deleted text.

I submit that this is not an enhancement request. This feature worked in
previous versions of StarOffice and has been around since ancient versions of
Word. The suggested workaround is not a workaround at all, because it doesn't
always work (as it was clearly admitted in the post).

The fix to this is simple: On the Options/Text-Document/Changes dialog, either
add a display attribute of [Hidden] to each change type, or make [None] really
mean what it says and display nothing.

Please please please. This is important for your business users.
Comment 3 dplevin 2005-10-31 16:16:58 UTC
Expanding on this a little bit, I'd like to see separate change settings for
editing and printing.

For example, I may want to see the deletions while I edit, but I want them to be
invisible when I print.  Ditto the colored text.  It would be nice not to have
to change the settings back and forth every time you print.
Comment 4 hsiddiqu 2006-02-14 08:38:57 UTC
I support this feature being supported. Marking the changed text in documents by
changebars is standard at my workplace, and has been available in MS Word and
FrameMaker for some time.
Comment 5 dlanderson 2009-06-10 15:45:33 UTC
This is a duplicate of Issue 56006. 
I just tested this issue with OOo 3.1.0 Writer and it still remains unresolved. 
However, I think the suggestion given under Issue 56006 by me on Tue Oct 18
17:56:16 +0000 2005 as to how to resolve the problem is more precise that that
given above by dan_higgins Thu Aug 19 22:07:59 +0000 2004. 
Please resolve this issue, it is still a problem for my organization as we must
submit documents to customers that are clearly readable by customers (no
strikethroughs and underlines but with change bars), which is still not possible
with OOo Writer. Our workaround is to use Microsoft Word for such documents,
which is not a satisfactory solution. 
Comment 6 bettina.haberer 2010-05-21 15:16:34 UTC
To grep the issues easier via "requirements" I put the issues currently lying on
my owner to the owner "requirements". 
Comment 7 Eduardo Michelini 2012-05-11 23:21:20 UTC
This issue is being a "no go" in our transition to OOo. This issue is a "must have" in our office, as it is used to control reports.
The way suggested by dan_higgins  looks more reasonable than the one proposed by dlanderson in issue 56006, as he/she mentions only deleted texts, and this option shall be available to all types of modifications.
Comment 8 pasdingue 2012-06-22 13:51:33 UTC
Hi there, 

Can you please address this issue. It has been around for nearly 9 years and we can still not hide deleted text. Because of this, we still use Microsoft products, which are costly and really annoying to use.