Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Full Text Issue Listing |
Summary: | Automatic font resizing sorely missed / text box incompitence | ||||||||||
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Product: | Impress | Reporter: | jefferai <openoffice> | ||||||||
Component: | formatting | Assignee: | AOO issues mailing list <issues> | ||||||||
Status: | CONFIRMED --- | QA Contact: | |||||||||
Severity: | Trivial | ||||||||||
Priority: | P3 | CC: | a.finch, Armin.Le.Grand, boyd.fletcher, dirTdogE, issues, lars_o_hansen, mauro.molinari, pentike | ||||||||
Version: | recent-trunk | Keywords: | oooqa | ||||||||
Target Milestone: | --- | ||||||||||
Hardware: | All | ||||||||||
OS: | All | ||||||||||
Issue Type: | DEFECT | Latest Confirmation in: | --- | ||||||||
Developer Difficulty: | --- | ||||||||||
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Description
jefferai
2005-03-02 20:41:45 UTC
Sorry, but this behaves like it is wanted so this cannot be called a defect. I set this to enhancement. Voting for this increases the weight of this. Thanks for your help. Reassigned. Heh, "behaves as wanted" depends on who's wanting it :-) I'll throw some votes at this and see what happens. As a complement to the "auto" component of this request it would be really hand to have the ability to enlarge and shring all bullets so that all the content (main and sub bullets) remained relatively scalled. confirming I believe this is still lacking in OpenOffice 2.0 :-( This would be a very nice enhancement indeed. There are a few other issues on the subject, for example issue #13972, issue #21684 and issue #44303. The workaround wg mentioned in issue #21684 (using a metafile) is a nice work-around, but it doesn't solve everything. In my particular case, I'd like to resize a diagram with figures and text boxes so that it fits into a presentation. I would then like to have effects to make certain elements appear at different times. For this, I need to break the metafile after resizing, which displaces the text elements and seems to round up their font sizes. Thanks. Poking at this again, because it's still a great feature of PowerPoint that is lacking/buggy/whatever in Impress. In PowerPoint, a text box contains text. If you have too much text, the text sizes are tweaked so that your text, well, fits in the text box. In OOo, your text just runs right over the edge of the text box. What's the point of a text box then, exactly? Seems like defective text box behavior to me (hence reassigning as DEFECT, hopefully to get some fresh blood on this problem). Bumping to current version as well. reset target milestone to not determined, since the is assigned owner for. What does "the is assigned owner for" mean? Total gibberish. How about putting some sort of a target milestone in, so that after almost three years I can get a feeling that maybe someone is paying attention to this, instead of letting it rot? In that vein, I've set it back to 2.4, in the hopes that 2.4 will actually have it. If that is not correct, please set it to the milestone by which this defect is expected to be corrected. To reiterate: it *is* a defect. Text boxes do not actually contain text, they just get bigger and fall off the slide as you add more. The good solution to this is automatic font resizing, which PowerPoint does, and which is a very nice feature (a killer feature IMHO, since it's both useful and saves time). I suppose a cruddy solution would be to simply disallow the text box to accept more text than it's capable of holding. Very cruddy solution though. there is currently nobody working on this issue, so target 2.4 is not feasible. There are a lot of more enhancement with more votes and priority so a realistic timeframe for this has to be determined. The absense of automatic resizing á la PowerPoint is very unfortunate. It's the one reason I now discontinue my use of Impress (I've really tried to switch to it). I know that this is a deliberate design choice (as I understand it) but there is no support in Impress to reduce the increased hassle it brings. In PowerPoint I can choose if I want automatic font sizes or not. Why can't this option be included in Impress?! When I'm pressed for time preparing slides for a lecture (I'm a university professor), this feature is what saves me. Sure, different slides could end up having different font sizes but I have never heard anyone complain about that. As long as you're reasonably sound in what sizes you accept, slight differences between slides does not matter at all. Perhaps business people and graphical designers are more picky, but how many of them use Open Office? There are many reason to use Open Office but this is a too big disadvantage (Apple's Keynote causes the same problem for me). I'm definitely no supporter of Microsoft and feel really sad about having to continue with PowerPoint. It would be really helpful if one could resize all the text in a bullet list in OpenOffice Impress and keep the relative sizes. When one writes a bullet list, the different levels of the list are indicated by indention and font size. If one has to write more text than the amount which fits in the box OpenOffice just writes over the box boundaries. It would be nice if one could change the font size of all items on different levels in one go and keep the relative font sizes as they indicate the list level. It would be even better if OpenOffice would offer an automatic function for this. The absence of this feature the the main reason for me to use PowerPoint for the time being. This is a killer feature for me. I mostly whip up slideshows for small-audience internal technical meetings. The presentations are sometimes throw-away, or sometimes parts of the slides get pulled into "big deal" (ie customer) presentations. Either way, the formatting of the slide is the least of my concerns (in the first case, the audience doesn't care, and in the second it's going to be re-formatted anyway). As such, I want to have the freedom to put as much detail as I want onto a slide, and not be limited to the 10 or so lines that fit by default. I specifically don't care if the font sizes from slide to slide are mismatched. Mismatched fonts are better than the alternative (words flowing off the end of the slide). Every time I go to create a presentation in impress, I get to slide 2, run into the lack of this feature, and abandon using impress for a few more months (hoping that someday this will be resolved). I don't want to spend time manually formatting things (and making it look even worse than auto-sizing does). CCed: aw I would also endorse the comments made here: this is a SHOWSTOPPER for me: despite strong commitment to OOo and Free Software, I regularly revert to powerpoint, and this is the single biggest reason (and alone enough to make me revert). The suggestion that it is somehow "better practice" to do all one's resizing manually, or to keep one's entire presentation in one font size ..... utterly ridiculous, and out of touch with the reality of real users in the real world, for whom the software (and even the aesthetic qualities of the presentation) are merely tools, and where all the focus is on the content. I also STRONGLY endorse mgillen's description of the context in which one wants to use Impress - quickly whipping up presentations, without their needing to be fiddled about with to get them to look, well, presentable! I look forward to some action on this ..... !! (sigh!) lack of this feature adds a great deal of time and frustration to creating content in Impress. I've been patiently waiting for this feature since OO 1.0. I know there's been progress ... tables in Impress ... great .. but this is critical too. This feature would be very helpful in creating presentations quickly. Like other users have mentioned, in many jobs one often needs to make quick presentations without having to worry about manually fixing the layout. Having this feature in Impress would certainly make it a more viable alternative for PowerPoint. And as an optional setting it shouldn't cause problems for those who do not want it. I also find this powerpoint feature attractive and would like to see it in impress. This is the main reason I would carry on using powerpoint in place of Impress. It is such a pain that it is not even available as an option. When I have 15 minutes to put together a presentation, or make a modification (add a slide or ten), I want to have the choice of making a crappy looking presentation. So, until the automatic resize of text in a box occurs, I'll keep regrettably using Powerpunt (cxoffice/Windows) or iWork (OS X). Please, put choice back into the hands of the user! Lack of this feature is my single major gripe with OpenOffice.org -- the user experience and productivity would be much improved. I agree this is a huge issue. I'm casting my votes for this issue too. *** Issue 105718 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. *** Hi, it is working now, isn't it ? shouldn't this issue be marked as RESOLVED now ? How can I disable this autoresize and keep well defined font size !!!??? owqcd, I don't know what you're referring to. I just downloaded the latest stable version of OpenOffice.org and could find neither default behavior nor any option which addresses this issue...? Is automatic font resizing already fixed? If so, I cannot find any option to do so. The problem is when I create a chart in Calc, and then I move that chart to Impress. Usually I want to resize the chart, fitting its size to my presentation. The chart itself resizes correctly, however the font size for labels, axes, etc. remains the same. This is clearly not what I want (nor many other people), as it makes text impossible to read it (it is too small). I attach a couple of images showing the issue. Thanks, Victor Created attachment 70863 [details]
Chart before resizing
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Chart after resizing
cl->betabandido: please file a separate issue for chart, this issue is about text boxes in impress. thank you. *** Issue 85412 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. *** So after a mere 7 years this has still not been addressed! The main reason I and many others avoid using impress and prefer powerpoint. Come on guys! *** Issue 76831 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. *** |