Issue 52467

Summary: Cannot edit mailmerge fields in Read Only documents
Product: Writer Reporter: chigye <jwilliam>
Component: editingAssignee: AOO issues mailing list <issues>
Status: CONFIRMED --- QA Contact:
Severity: Trivial    
Priority: P3 CC: h.ilter, issues
Version: 680m104Keywords: needmoreinfo
Target Milestone: ---   
Hardware: PC   
OS: Windows Server 2003   
Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT Latest Confirmation in: ---
Developer Difficulty: ---
Description Flags
Can't edit readonly mail merge docs error msgs.doc
Letter with mailmerge fields for testing. none

Description chigye 2005-07-25 22:26:44 UTC
When opening a document as read-only, you can traditionally make changes right 
away, if you try to save them, it will prompt you to "Save As", but you can do 
live editing in read only mode.

When we open a document with mail merge fields in it that is read only, we 
cannot make any modifications to those fields w/o first opening it as an 
editable version. See attached screenshots for error messages about lack of 

With other types of documents, we do not have these issues.
Comment 1 chigye 2005-07-25 22:28:42 UTC
Created attachment 28215 [details]
Can't edit readonly mail merge docs error msgs.doc
Comment 2 chigye 2005-07-25 22:31:55 UTC
Created attachment 28216 [details]
Letter with mailmerge fields for testing.
Comment 3 michael.ruess 2005-07-26 07:43:43 UTC
Reassigned to HI.
Comment 4 h.ilter 2005-07-26 09:35:26 UTC
HI->MRU: Not a mailmerge problem. In OOo you can't edit anythink at the read
only mode at all. The user must go the opposite way as in MS-Word.
Comment 5 michael.ruess 2005-07-26 10:01:56 UTC
MRU->ES: pls have a look. AFAIK the content of input fields can be changed in
read-only mode (am I right?). Please evaluate current behaviour of mailmerge fields.
Comment 6 eric.savary 2005-08-01 07:14:20 UTC
I son't see the point of beeing able to edit a read-only document.
Yes input field can be shoen (the input dialog is activated on click) but it is
then also read-only and you can't change anything.

Unlesss there is a good reason for editing such documents, I'd close this issue
as "invalid".
Comment 7 chigye 2005-08-01 19:08:45 UTC
Hi James,

First, do you allow me to copy/paste your comments in the issue? Unless 
some infos are confidential, it's always better (because public) to 
comment issues in the issues...

The problem here must be addressed as an enhancement (because we don't 
have the same concept as Microsoft and we have to specify a new behavior 
if needed) but not as a defect.

In the meantime, you can:
- click on the "Edit file" button
- modify the file you need to modify and directly send as E-mail without 
saving (a temporary file will be sent)

Please continue information excange on IssueZilla, not by e-mail.

Éric Savary
QA Writer Eng.

James Williamson wrote:

> In our office environment, we have a file server, where CSRs access 
> shared forms to fill out while on client calls. For obvious reasons 
> they do not have write access to the server (to prevent them from 
> deleting or modifying the template/master document).
> So when they open the file, it opens read-only. Traditionally under MS 
> Office, while in read-only mode, they could modify it and then choose 
> "Send as Email" and sent to the appropriate department for processing.
> In Open Office, you are forced to save the document to their C: drive 
> in order to modify it. CSRs have no need (or want) to save every 
> document they send. It's a waste of time (an extra step to save as and 
> rename and space on their PC). It just needs to be completed and sent 
> (plus there is an email record anyway).
> This is how many high volume, enterprises are set up to handle shared 
> documents/templates. It may not make 'sense' in the individual user at 
> home's life but it does in large enterprise environment.
> Let me know if you have any further questions.
> Thanks.
> James Williamson
Comment 8 eric.savary 2005-08-01 19:28:32 UTC
ES->requirements: the propsed enhancement is to be found in the above quoted e-mail.

Sum-up: find a way to edit read-only files without having to save a copy of them
Comment 9 ace_dent 2008-05-16 00:54:02 UTC Issue Tracker - Feedback Request.

The Issue you raised is currently assigned to 'Requirements' pending review, but
has not been updated within the last 3 years. Please consider re-testing with
one of the latest versions of OOo, as the problem(s) may have already been
addressed. Either use the recent stable version:
or consider trying the new OOo 3 BETA (still in testing):
Please report back the outcome so this Issue may be Closed or Progressed as
necessary - otherwise it may be Resolved as Invalid in the future. You may also
wish to search for (and note) any duplicates of this Issue that may have
advanced further by checking the Issue Tracker:
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