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Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Full Text Issue Listing |
| Summary: | Terminology for templates, master pages, slide masters is confusing | ||
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| Product: | Impress | Reporter: | mhp_nc <mike.prager> |
| Component: | ui | Assignee: | AOO issues mailing list <issues> |
| Status: | CONFIRMED --- | QA Contact: | |
| Severity: | Trivial | ||
| Priority: | P4 | CC: | cno, issues, rainerbielefeld_ooo_qa |
| Version: | OOo 2.0 Beta | Keywords: | usability |
| Target Milestone: | --- | ||
| Hardware: | All | ||
| OS: | Windows XP | ||
| Issue Type: | ENHANCEMENT | Latest Confirmation in: | --- |
| Developer Difficulty: | --- | ||
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Description
mhp_nc
2005-08-18 16:13:05 UTC
Reassigned. (Justin Kelley 9/11/2005) My specs are as follows: - OO 2.0 Beta - Dell Dimension XPS PC - Windows XP Professional SP2 - Pentium 4 3.8 GHz Processor - 2.0 GB DDR RAM I was able to replicate the issue by clicking around in Impress and viewing the "confusing" terms. Based on the example given, I'm not sure I agree with the terms being confusing. A background template can be considered an element of the overall slide design. I then went over to PowerPoint and viewed the terminology over there, which isn't much different. I would place a low level of importance on this issue. Justin Kelley said: "Based on the example given, I'm not sure I agree with the terms being confusing. A background template can be considered an element of the overall slide design. "I then went over to PowerPoint and viewed the terminology over there, which isn't much different." That answer really baffles me. OK, "A" can be considered part of "B", but where is that explained in the documentation? Does that excuse the multiplicity of terms used for (what may or may not be) the same thing? Because the PowerPoint documentation on this is a mess, does that mean that OOo shouldn't strive to be better? Is MS the criterion on this? How hard would it be to clean up the UI and documentation to be CONSISTENT and CLEAR on this? Why not set a good example? I note also that in the Impress Forum, many of the questions are from folks puzzled about customizing their presentations. Hello? Doesn't that seem to say that there is something amiss? Or do we assume they are all idiots? The issues around clarity, consistency and ease of use need more time in the limelight. On the other hand I consider it a measure of success OpenOffice has reached the stage where these issues are so important, means the underlying program is doing well. Norman Prather I agree with jkelley, but, of course, that does not mean that there is nothing that can be improved. @mhp_nc: May be you can start a specification draft with concrete proposals like <http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Writer/Drafts/issue_66319> or <http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Calc/Drafts/Issue_33851>? *** Issue 77250 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. *** *** Issue 53506 has been confirmed by votes. *** I have prepared a little spec with proposed terminology for various Impress elements. I would like to post it on the wiki, but there seems to be no /Drafts in the Impress page. I could post it here but it does not seem really the right place. Suggestions? Cheers, Michele Having just spent 12 hours fiddling with template design, I've concluded this is a MAJOR issue. Editing slide master seems to let me define styles for various levels of text, but not affect positioning of elements in slide layouts. While editing slide master, layouts are not available so I'm darned if I can see how to get positioning correct against a graphical background. Slavishly following the execrable MS Powerpoint has led OO.o into a dead end here. Haven't you ever seen good presentation tools like Lotus Freelance, which handles this so much better? |