Issue 62584

Summary: Implement n-up printing for mail-merge ("2 pages per sheet")
Product: Writer Reporter: eagle3386 <eagle>
Component: printingAssignee: AOO issues mailing list <issues>
Status: CONFIRMED --- QA Contact:
Severity: Trivial    
Priority: P3 CC: issues
Version: OOo 2.0.1Keywords: oooqa, rfe_eval_ok
Target Milestone: ---   
Hardware: All   
OS: All   
URL: http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?p=129709
Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT Latest Confirmation in: ---
Developer Difficulty: ---

Description eagle3386 2006-02-26 12:19:01 UTC
Hi,

before I came to OOo, I used MS Office and there I had a feature in the page
settings for the page layout. That feature gave me the ability to print 2 DIN A5
pages (landscape-layout) on a DIN A4 page (portrait-layout).

As discussed at http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?p=129709 the
feature isn't currently available in OOo and therefore I'm requested this
feature if it's possible to do so. :)

Kindly regards,
 Martin.. :D
Comment 1 lohmaier 2006-02-26 16:40:05 UTC
You should read that thread again.

It is possible to do n-up-printing in OOo - it was possible from the beginning
of OOo.

You have the choice between "dumb" n-up printing or brochure printing (then the
pages get reordered so you can just put sheet onto sheet and fold it and then
have the correct page-order in the result).

Use the print-page-preview button (not the standard-print-button) to print n-up
from page-preview.

That solution was given right at the beginning of the thread.
Comment 2 lohmaier 2006-02-26 16:40:43 UTC
closing issue.

Feature was there from the very beginning and is working.
Comment 3 eagle3386 2006-02-26 16:53:44 UTC
The problem is, that it doesn't work with the mail merge-wizard.
I'm going to describe what I want once more:

By default, I got a normal, portait-layouted DIN A4-page inside of Writer.
That DIN A4-page is *always* only half-filled with text.
Inside the text (at the beginning) is the mail merge-field which consists of
both, a form of address (i. e. "Dear Miss" or "Dear Mister") and a name ("Sophie
James" or "John Doe").

Because I want to reduce costs, I don't want to print page by page and when the
half number of pages is reached, turning the pages and continue the printing
proccess. Instead, I want to say to OOo "OK, the printer got DIN A4-pages, print
2 pages on ONE page by printing the first page at the upper page-part and the
second page at the lower page-part - Go, do it!".
With MS Office I could do that as described above and till now I couldn't find
such a way in OOo.. :(
Comment 4 michael.ruess 2006-02-27 07:42:26 UTC
Reassigned to requirements.
Comment 5 lohmaier 2006-02-28 23:34:49 UTC
Always write the whole info....

Extending summary to actually tell what this issue is about, setting keywords.

However, I don't think this will get a high prio, since most print-drivers offer
this functionality nowadays, thus no need for the individual applications to
support it...
Comment 6 eagle3386 2006-03-02 09:04:27 UTC
OK, sorry for that.

But IMHO the new title isn't much correct.
My printer *is* able to print multiple pages on a sheet (up to 8 or 16, AFAIK),
but the the serial letter I've got is always just half the size of a DIN A4-page
and because I don't want to change the printer-setup everytime I print that
letter, I'd like to have a feature in OOo which tells Writer to print 2 pages of
that serial letter on 1 sheet when this specific document is opened and sent to
the printer.

This hopefully explains better what I want to do.. :)
Comment 7 dgebel 2006-03-14 22:58:52 UTC
Actually, I have to disagree with the "printers will handle this" comment.
I'm fighting with this issue *now*, and its not just for mail-merge.

And not all printer drivers have this functionality for that matter!

The problem is that when you use the printer's version of function (AND the 
built-in version), you have to reverse-specify the sizes. I KNOW I'm printing 
to say, US Letter-sized paper. What I don't know is how big I have to make the 
pages to get it to "work" properly, i.e. so the margins and sizes will be 
correct on any given printer. 

I'm trying to print a manual, 2 "pages" per sheet, and also on the back. I want 
page numbers on each "page", I also want to have different headers & footers on 
each page (which I know can be done with the appropriate style setup). If I 
have a photo that is 600 dpi and I try to send it to the printer via the 
printer's n-up function, or even the software, then the picture will get 
resized on me. If I'm given the file to other people, I have to instruct them 
to print it "specially" as well. If I've saved to a PDF, the users definitely 
will have to depend on their printer driver for this functionality.

I had to go through and calculate every 4th page, type in the Print Pages: "1, 
4, 11...." and run it through the printer several times. ARG!!!  I certainly 
can't expect a user to manage to do this.

I'd also like to be able to run a graphic and/or header and/or text across BOTH 
pages, which *is* impossible as far as I can tell, and I'd really like to be 
able to see both pages while editing.  While this is getting more into the DTP 
functionality... I'd love to see it!
Comment 8 eagle3386 2006-03-16 18:58:33 UTC
Thanks to dgebel - except the header/footer-feature, he's speaking about what my
thoughts are, too.

Of course, the printer driver could handle it - but it can't be reality that I
have to change the printer settings each time I want to use OOo! Seriously, this
should definitely find its way into the OOo-source code!