Issue 62600

Summary: Incorrect fonts after export to MS PowerPoint format
Product: Impress Reporter: jirkaz <zaloha>
Component: save-exportAssignee: AOO issues mailing list <issues>
Status: ACCEPTED --- QA Contact:
Severity: Trivial    
Priority: P3 CC: issues
Version: OOo 2.0.1   
Target Milestone: ---   
Hardware: All   
OS: All   
Issue Type: DEFECT Latest Confirmation in: ---
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Description Flags
Wrongly exported characters none

Description jirkaz 2006-02-27 11:58:38 UTC
Problem is described at (in czech
language, but I think it is clear for all from pictures)...

Short description in English:

1) document in OOo Impress
(, used
fonts "Arial" and Times New Roman" - all is O.K.

2) export to MS PowerPoint format
fonts in MS PowerPoint viewer (version 2003) are incorrect - czech characters
are different from others (see

3) checking exported file in full MS PowerPoint: czech characters are in "Lucida
Sans Unicode" (wrong), others in "Arial" or "Times New Roman" (correct)

5) this problem appears only after export from OOo version 2.x - OOo version
1.1.5 works fine (as described at web page mentioned above).
Comment 1 wolframgarten 2006-02-27 12:00:33 UTC
Comment 2 christian.guenther 2006-02-27 15:58:47 UTC
I can't reproduce the bug with the wrong font.
PLease attach a bugdoc to reproduce te bug.
I can reproduce the bug with the different look of some czech characters in the
PPT-Viewer  but in PPT 2003 the same characters in the same document looks ok.
Comment 3 jirkaz 2006-02-27 16:41:27 UTC
cgu: what do you mean by term "bugdoc"?

I add: incorrect czech characters (font Lucida Sans Unicode instead od Arial od
Times New Roman which are originally used) appears in PPT2003 czech version (I'm
not able to check the bug in original = english PPT2003 - I have not it). I will
add some screenshots from PPT2003 czech version to (but give me some time, please)...
Comment 4 christian.guenther 2006-02-27 17:01:54 UTC
Sorry for confounding you.
I saw the link to the png first and thought all links are screenshots. 
I downloaded the bugdocs (the odp and the PPT file) and will have a look again.
Comment 5 jirkaz 2006-02-28 23:30:25 UTC
cgu: never mind...

I added correct and wrong versions with capitals on and some
screenshots from full MS PowerPoint (only older wrong *.ppt without capitals,
but with two highlighted different characters) on
Comment 6 christian.guenther 2006-03-03 09:59:54 UTC
Set to new and change the target.
Comment 7 christian.guenther 2006-03-03 10:05:21 UTC
I can reproduce the bug.
Please have a look.
Comment 8 sven.jacobi 2006-10-27 11:55:19 UTC
sj: The problem is that the PowerPoint Viewer is not able to properly display
Unicode characters. In OOo Version 1.1.5 we stored the characters using system
encoding, but this is not as good as using Unicode.
Comment 9 sven.jacobi 2006-10-27 11:55:58 UTC
Comment 10 jirkaz 2006-10-27 19:33:36 UTC
sj: "WONTFIX - closed"... 

I can't believe what I'm reading. It means any presentation made with OOo
Impress WILL NEVER BE correctly readable or editable in MS PowerPoint, does it?
Although the majority of people uses the MS PP.... Can you be so kind and tell
me how I can  propagate and spread OOo with such bug (sorry, with such "feature"
- see B. Gates etc.).

Really good point of departure to switch MS Office -> OOo....
Comment 11 sven.jacobi 2006-10-30 10:37:17 UTC
sj->jirkaz: Sorry, I mixed your problem up with another problem where the
characters are not displayed within the PPT97 viewer.

I agree that there exist a font and not a character problem, and certainly this
has to be fixed within OOo.

Comment 12 droutsis 2006-12-01 22:21:24 UTC
I can confirm this with greek characters. The symptoms are exactly the same: Use
Times New Roman in OOo Impress. Export to MS PPT. Greek characters come out as
"Lucida Sans Unicode" (wrong). Western characters (including accents) come out
Re-importing into OOo shows all the characters as Times New Roman again.

Additional information:
1. OOo 2.0.4 in WinXP SP2. Have also tried OOo 2.0.1 with the same results.
2. It doesn't seem to matter what the original font is: I have tried Arial,
Palatino Linotype, Times New Roman, Tahoma and Verdana. They all come out as
Lucida Sans Unicode.
3. Changing the system language in Regional Options makes no difference.
4. I have tried it with MS Powerpoint Viewer 2003, also with MS Powerpoint 2000
(9.0.2716) which confirms font is Lucida Sans Unicode.
4. An important addition: It seems the result font isn't always Lucida Sans
Unicode. I've tried to make a simple test file, and the result font was Arial
Unicode MS! I have no idea what caused the difference.

I can provide a test case and screenshots if needed.
Searching the Issue Tracker has come up with other issues that seem to be
duplicates of this one: Issue 20281, Issue 62329, Issue 71198, Issue 71649. In
this last case, the issue seems to have been recently fixed? (I'm new to this
and find following the conversation a bit hard.)

I think this is really important for getting people to appreciate the value of
OOo. How can I convince someone to switch if they can't see properly in their MS
Powerpoint the presentation I gave them?
Comment 13 zirneklitis 2007-02-06 00:15:08 UTC
I suppose that this is the problem with any text containing none-ISO-8859-1
character set characters. At least any presentation containing Latvian, Greek or
Cyrillic letters are damaged. (See attached picture).
Comment 14 zirneklitis 2007-02-06 00:16:27 UTC
Created attachment 42771 [details]
Wrongly exported characters
Comment 15 spulka 2008-01-09 18:22:30 UTC
So are you working on it? I have to make a presentation in PowerPoint but I
can't have it in any other font than Lucida Sans Unicode...
Comment 16 jkal71 2008-11-04 14:51:32 UTC
So is anyone actually working on this ?
When serious bugs like this need years to get resolved, I really wonder how can
we persuade people use opensource software...
Comment 17 jkal71 2008-12-07 20:22:04 UTC
Interestingly enough importing an openoffice ppt file in google docs and saving
it again in powerpoint format displays the non-ISO-8859-1
characters correctly.