Issue 64447

Reassigned to SBA.

This problem occurs on Linux (Ubuntu, etc.) too, although on one specific
distribution (Red Flag from China), the ambiguous-width characters (like left
and right quotes) always appear in the Chinese font. I think the vendor did
something about it, but the space problem is always there :-(.

Many issues been adressed since OOo 2.0.1 concerning CTL languages and character
treatment. Please re-verify your findings in OOo 3.0 and comment here.
Thank you.

Set isssue to "Worksforme".

Closing issue. 
Feel free to reopen if findings concerning this scenario in OOo 3.0 or later can
justify it.

I tested again on OOo 3.0, and all the problems I had described were still there.

OS = ALL due to comment 2

If this still is a problem a sample document wold help to understand the problem for users without Chinese language knowledge

Created attachment 81108 [details]
Test file for the problem

Add the test file as requested.

Please notice the text in the original bug report is now corrupt for some reason and I cannot decipher it now. It contains no Chinese now.

The bug continues in Ubuntu's LibreOffice 4.0.2.2 (Compilation ID: 400m0(Build:2).

Try restoring the corrupt part in the original bug report:

1) For a phrase like "测试“test”" (whether imported from a Word file or directly
input), the left quote will appear in the Chinese font SimSun, but the right
quote will appear in the Western font Times New Roman.

2) For a phrase like "测试 test 测试", the first space will be in Chinese font,
and the second will be in Western font.

3) For a phrase like "测试“测试”", if I insert a manual break before the left
quote, the left quote will be in Western font suddenly.

Reporter tells lots of observations, but for me it's difficult to find out what observations might show a bug and what observations might not.

My test  with  "AOO 4.0.0-Dev – German UI / German locale  [AOO400m3(Build:9702)  -  Rev. 1503709 (2013-07-17) ]" on German German WIN7 Home Premium (64bit)", Common 4.0-dev User Profile, Asian language support ant CTL enabled:

1. Open reporters sample document, Zoom -> 600% and observe word "test" in 
   second sentence
2. click behind opening quotation mark before word "test"
   > It will be shown as font "SimSun" (also see remark 'a' below!)
3. click behind closing quotation mark behind word "test"
   > It will be shown as font "Time New Roman"

This might be unexpected, but who can know what reporter typed? My ODF skills are not sufficient to decide what viewing should be expected.

But:
10. Redo steps 1 ... 3, but with SoftMaker FreeOffice
    Here in step 2 opening quotation mark will be shown as font "Time New Roman"
    what might be more plausible. 
    But again, currently I can't tell whether I observe a Bug in FreeOffice 
    or in AOO

Additional information
----------------------
a) it's easy to distinguish opening quotation marks in "Time New Roman" and "SimSun" (you can also compare with opening quotation mark in first sentence):
Click behind opening quotation mark before word "test" in second sentence and mark it,  then change font from "SimSun" to "Time New Roman". You will observe that the wide space between quotation mark and chinese character before will disappear (related to "Bug 90389 - CJK punctuation compression "?), and viewing is different, in "SimSun" the curve above the fat point at the bottom of each of the 2 elements does not exceed the fat point to the left

b) BTW, http://odf-validator.rhcloud.com/ rates reporter's sample as valid ODF

c) Results with other programs:
   Sympony: Like AOO
   LibreOffice 4.0.3:  Like AOO

d) I think it's an AOO bug, but help of an ODF expert required for final decision

Yes, it is possible to manually change the fonts to make them correct. In fact, that is what I have to do when preparing a well-typeset document with OpenOffice. The problem is: Why should I have to do this? I just want to apply a font setting (choose different fonts for Eastern and Western characters in Writer) to the whole document, and why should a symbol have different fonts applied just because what is before it (or its absence)?

As a side note, I have seen enough Chinese ODF (or ODF-generated PDF) documents that suffer from this problem. The result is unacceptable for me.

IMHO, this is a serious design flaw in OpenOffice.

(In reply to Rainer Bielefeld from comment #10)
> Reporter tells lots of observations, but for me it's difficult to find out
> what observations might show a bug and what observations might not.
> 
> My test  with  "AOO 4.0.0-Dev – German UI / German locale 
> [AOO400m3(Build:9702)  -  Rev. 1503709 (2013-07-17) ]" on German German WIN7
> Home Premium (64bit)", Common 4.0-dev User Profile, Asian language support
> ant CTL enabled:
> 
> 1. Open reporters sample document, Zoom -> 600% and observe word "test" in 
>    second sentence
> 2. click behind opening quotation mark before word "test"
>    > It will be shown as font "SimSun" (also see remark 'a' below!)
> 3. click behind closing quotation mark behind word "test"
>    > It will be shown as font "Time New Roman"
[snipped]
> a) it's easy to distinguish opening quotation marks in "Time New Roman" and
> "SimSun" (you can also compare with opening quotation mark in first
> sentence):
> Click behind opening quotation mark before word "test" in second sentence
> and mark it,  then change font from "SimSun" to "Time New Roman". You will
> observe that the wide space between quotation mark and chinese character
> before will disappear (related to "Bug 90389 - CJK punctuation compression
> "?), and viewing is different, in "SimSun" the curve above the fat point at
> the bottom of each of the 2 elements does not exceed the fat point to the
> left

I have no skills here