Issue 66980

Summary: Nonbreaking space & hyphen disobey icon
Product: Writer Reporter: T. J. Frazier <tj>
Component: viewingAssignee: AOO issues mailing list <issues>
Status: CONFIRMED --- QA Contact:
Severity: Trivial    
Priority: P3 CC: issues, kpalagin, rainerbielefeld_ooo_qa
Version: OOo 2.0.3Keywords: oooqa
Target Milestone: ---   
Hardware: PC   
OS: Windows XP   
Issue Type: DEFECT Latest Confirmation in: ---
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Description T. J. Frazier 2006-07-04 02:32:41 UTC
If the check-boxes for non=breaking space and non-breaking hyphen display are 
checked on Tools > Options > Writer > Formatting Aids, then those characters 
are highlighted without regard to the status of the "Display nonprinting 
characters" icon.  There may be others that I haven't used.
Comment 1 T. J. Frazier 2006-07-04 02:36:47 UTC
Created attachment 37478 [details]
has space and hyphens
Comment 2 jack.warchold 2006-07-04 13:43:05 UTC
this works as designed

set to invalid
Comment 3 jack.warchold 2006-07-04 13:43:31 UTC
invalid closing
Comment 4 T. J. Frazier 2006-07-06 03:22:55 UTC
The Help for the menu item (column of check boxes) involved states:
Defines which non-printing characters are visible on screen. Activate the Non-
printing Characters icon on the Standard bar. All characters that you have 
selected on the Formatting Aids tab page will be displayed.
[I note that it doesn't say that the characters will *not* be displayed when 
the icon is deactivated, but most of them are not.]
I suggest that this description, rather than the current implementation, is the 
proper design for the feature involved.  Constant visibility for these 
characters is probably of no utility, where occasional display (as toggled by 
the icon) certainly is useful.  Having to go four menu levels down and changing 
check boxes is not a user-friendly design. 
Comment 5 michael.ruess 2006-07-11 09:44:33 UTC
Reassigned to SBA.
Comment 6 T. J. Frazier 2006-11-29 01:03:33 UTC
100,000 words later . . . The "Field Shading" menu item / icon controls shading
for fields, drop caps, hard spaces, and soft hyphens.  It also controls two
check boxes in the Options, which it probably shouldn't.
To see this remarkable behavior, 
1) Open the attached document
2) If field shading is off, turn it on. (View>Field Shading should show check mark)
3) Now, turn off Field Shading.  Observe that hard space is unshaded, soft
hyphens are unshaded and not displayed.
4) Select Tools>Options>OpenOffice.org Writer>Formatting Aids.  Observe that the
check boxes for "Custom hyphens" and "Non-breaking spaces" are clear.
5) Check these two boxes.  Click "Okay".
6) Observe that hard space is shaded and soft hyphens are displayed and shaded.
7) Cycle Field Shading (turn it on, then off).  Observe as in Step 3.
8) Select Tools>Options. Formatting aids will be immediately visible.  Observe
that check boxes have been cleared. (Turning Field Shading on will set them again.)
This is backwards from any user interface I've ever seen . . .  /tj


Comment 7 Rainer Bielefeld 2007-01-16 07:10:08 UTC
I agree that the "division of work" between 'Tools - Options - Writer -
Formatting Aids' and 'View - Field Shading' is a little confusing. Currently I
can't decide whether UI or HELP should be imprved.
Comment 8 kpalagin 2007-04-20 20:29:46 UTC
Confirming.
Comment 9 stefan.baltzer 2007-05-15 17:54:34 UTC
<Quote>
This is backwards from any user interface I've ever seen . . .  /tj
<Unquote>

SBA: My personal comment: After 9 years of doing QA, this is BY FAR not the
first time that someone pops up and regards "ordinary defects" in a FREE
software as a personal insult that keeps him from working, breathing, surviving
and stops the world from turning. Or something like this. This is not exactly a
professional aproach.

SBA-> TJ: Feel free to use other software. Any software, since all other
software seems to be 100% free of defects concerning UI. And thank you for
contributing this issue for OOo.