Issue 7065

Are there someone working on the writer wizard? 

confirmed

Reassigned to BH

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I think it is a mistake to future this bug. Page numbering is a very
important function of all worprocessing software and its
discoverability must at least be increased. Wouldn't it be possible to
at least add a new  Page Numbering entry under the Insert menu? When
clicking on that new entry, the Insert Fields dialog with the Document
Tab > Page Numbers >As per Page Styles already selected should pop up.
Am not a programmer but am sure that can be acccomplished quickly and
it will increased dramatically the discoverabilty of Page Numbering.

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I agree. In the current version of OOo inserting page numbers is not at all intuitive and it is a 
problem since it is a feature used almost as often as formatting text with italic…. ;-)

Maybe a wizard for “fine tuning” can be designed as a user-friendly solution, but (at least to begin 
with) we need something much more simple: A simple option in the Insert-menu would be the 
easiest solution – and what I assume most users expect (based on my own experience).
 
Janus

I consider this a very important issue too, as I always spent a lot of time
figuring out how to set the page numbering, if I want to start on the second
page with page-number 1. It's supposed to be easy however apparently it is not.
Further the total page number does not obey the starting point and counts all
pages, although the starting point is set to page number 2, which is another bug.

I wonder however, why this bug is not voted for, if it is considered that
important by people.

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I think the user should be able to set the start page for the page numbering
(ie.: the first page was numbered 3, the second was numbered 4, etc...)

I think the user should be able to set the start page for the page numbering
(ie.: the first page was numbered 3, the second was numbered 4, etc...)

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Bettina, I'll take this over.

target to 2.x

Please look at http://www.ooomacros.org/user.php#216044. It's a little macro I
did that could be a start to address this issue.

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target 3.0

CC'ed fl.

A change of the owner makes more sense here. Frank, please also take over this
issue, as it is the same context of easing page number handling. Thank you.

please keep in mind, that we already have a working solution:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pagination

that is specified at:
http://specs.openoffice.org/writer/extensions/InsertPagination.odt
(Spec relies to v 1.2 of the extension)

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Set target to 3.x.

Created attachment 54297 [details]
my take on this

Integrate extention Pagination into OOo

I think that #12138 can be thought as the duplicate of this issue. Adding
usability keyword.

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Page numbering is hard to use in OOo and anything that goes beyond the vary
basics is much too complex for any real life use.

I therefore use with OOo only basic page numbering - but even this could be
improved and made more accessible. Improving page numbering handling is highly
desired.

However, my view is that current page numbering scheme is flawed and the only
way for a massive improvement is the implementation of cascading-stylesheets
styles, i.e.: one page/paragraph/... derives its style from a previous style and
adds/changes some options of the previous style. Howeverm this css-like
inheritance is slightly more complex than the true css, because elements will
cross-inherit back and forth.

Of course, these styles need to be accessible in a trivial way, so that any user
with NO style experience at all just hits a button (which needs to be intuitive
enough and easily found), and voila, the most complex page numbering is generated.

In this way, it should be possible to:
 - extend a paragraph style with an option to start numbering on the page
   the paragraph will be displayed
   -- any previous pages won't be numbered
   -- page inherits numbering property from this paragraph style
   -- rationale: documents may contain pages that are NOT numbered
       --- first page: numbered, BUT numbering not displayed
       --- "introductory pages": not numbered at all
   -- paragraph-style numbering options:
      -- numbering-start: numbering will start on the page the paragraph is
                          displayed
      -- numbering-offset: the numbering will start with this number,
                           not necessarily with '1'
                           add option yo start with (previous number + 1)
      -- numbering-format: the way the page number is displayed
                           (header/footer, number format, ...)
      -- numbering-off: this will be the last page to be numbered 
                        (not very sure about this option)
      -- numbering-style-next: apply this numbering-style to next page
                               [with easy implementation of lefy/right
                                numbering schemes]

So, the numbering style is a style both of the paragraph and page. It is really
tightly bound with paragraphs, because the user usually wants to first number a
page on which some particular text was written. In the same way, page-breaks
should be really a style feature of both paragraphs and pages.

Other objects, like frames/sections/ ... might inherit these numbering styles,
too (as requested in various issues and sometimes needed in complex layouts).

now there are extentions which help but are still beta and have some locale
mystichs for me..
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/Pager
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/528

Created attachment 58768 [details]
updated version of a suggested implementation

Caolan, it seems that because fl isn't a developer he didn't really pay
attention to your patch. I now give it a try.

Created attachment 65270 [details]
update patch to apply against DEV300_m61

Caolan, finally I found some time to try your patch. Sorry that I couldn't do
that earlier.

I don't know if I made something wrong, but I couldn't get it to work as I
expected it to work. My document got a "first page" page style for the first
page and "default" for the others, but no page number was inserted. Can you
explain me what was expected to happen?

Besides that I think that even without title pages inserting page numbers is way
too complicated in OOo and your dialog does not cover this. The extension
"Pagination" OTOH does that, but it is not as flexible with title pages as yours.

Created attachment 68888 [details]
patch updated to DEV300_m76

I have updated the patch to the latest milestone

Created attachment 70589 [details]
update for 3.3

FWIW, I was considering this patch for inclusion but it
creates two new files under the LGPL. I don't think we
have an iCLA by cmc@ so this will have to wait until we
have a revised SGA that somehow includes the bugzilla
database.

Of course if cmc@ gives authorization for AL2 we could
consider it earlier.

At the time the patch was committed it was covered by an SCA so Sun/Oracle got the copyright as soon as the patch was added.

It is not required that cmc formally agrees to AL2, it's enough that he does not decline his contribution under the SCA.

please consider my last comments; I'm not sure if the patch actually works as it should.

OK ... I was being cautious about licensing issues but
this surely needs more evaluation anyways.

thanks.

I'm adding this comment to all open issues with Issue Type == PATCH.  We have 220 such issues, many of them quite old.  I apologize for that.  

We need your help in prioritizing which patches should be integrated into our next release, Apache OpenOffice 4.0.

If you have submitted a patch and think it is applicable for AOO 4.0, please respond with a comment to let us know.

On the other hand, if the patch is no longer relevant, please let us know that as well.

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Thanks!

-Rob