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Description herjolf 2007-03-16 11:38:58 UTC
Today Ctrl + Page Down/Up moves the cursor between the footer/header and the body. I WISH THE DEFAULT SETTING INSTEAD WOULD MOVE THE CURSOR TO THE TOP OF THE NEXT/PREVIOUS PAGE. I believe many users would be helped a lot in their daily work if that was the default function, since I would guess it is a much more requested function than moving between body and footer/header, which is very easy with the mouse. It would also be of help for Word-users who want to migrate, since it works that way in Word. Thanks for a great job with OO! PS: I know it is possible to reassign shortcuts to macros but that would be too complicated for most users.
Comment 1 michael.ruess 2007-03-16 12:28:05 UTC
Reassigned to ES.
Comment 2 eric.savary 2007-03-17 13:00:16 UTC
Saying "most users want it like this" is barely your feeling. We need a real case of a lot of people wanting for it before taking action. Some things speak against this feature request: 1) We are not found of changing shortcuts or defaults in general because of a lot of dependencies. 2) As you said, it is customable but it is not sooooo hard to do. 3) "I" never needed this feature, so it already makes 50% of the users NOT needing it ;) 4) -> the most important: Ctrl+PgUp/Dn has been set for accessibility reasons. Disabled people really need a default to reach Header and Footer with the keyboard. So, please provide then an other keyboard shortcut for Header/Footer before we can start thinking about changing this.
Comment 3 herjolf 2007-03-18 19:41:44 UTC
Yes I agree that shortcuts should not be changed easily but in this case I see reasons for it. 1. Yes it is CUSTOMABLE but from my experience through the years with IT-users, they make little changes to the default settings since they often assume the program works as it is. So the better the default settings are the more satisfied customers we get. 2. What â€Youâ€ need or â€Iâ€ need doesnÂ´t prove anything but I assume we ALL can engage ourselves in improving the OO suite and not belittle anyone. Sarcasm or irony like this just makes people stop contributing, and I am sure none of us want that. That only prevents us from improving the OO, which doesnÂ´t serve our goal. 3. Since Ctrl+PgUp/Dn today is activated first after the header/footer has been inserted, I think a change to moving to the top of the next/previous page would help the DISABLED more. They can use it right away. 4. When you have a several pages document I think it helps to know that you end up at a certain place, the top of the document, when you move around. You donÂ´t have to think about where on the page you end up. This is also extra convenient when you see the whole page on the screen. 5. I tried to find another shortcut for moving between body and header/footer but found none so far. Will continue looking though. Ctrl+H (Header) seems to be available but Ctrl+F is not, so IÂ´ll keep on looking. LetÂ´s remember that a person who tests/uses OO can only assume and guess the response by the market since he can not do a market research. We can ALL be wrong, and sometimes are of course, but let us have an attitude of helping OO to improve, instead of â€defendingâ€ what it is today. THEN we are open enough to see that which can be improved.