Issue 75451

Summary: Shortcut to top of next/previous page
Product: Writer Reporter: herjolf <wettlestam>
Component: editingAssignee: AOO issues mailing list <issues>
Status: CONFIRMED --- QA Contact:
Severity: Trivial    
Priority: P3 CC: issues
Version: OOo 2.1   
Target Milestone: ---   
Hardware: PC   
OS: Windows XP   
Issue Type: FEATURE Latest Confirmation in: ---
Developer Difficulty: ---

Description herjolf 2007-03-16 11:38:58 UTC
Today Ctrl + Page Down/Up moves the cursor between the footer/header and the body.


I believe many users would be helped a lot in their daily work if that was the
default function, since I would guess it is a much more requested function than
moving between body and footer/header, which is very easy with the mouse.
It would also be of help for Word-users who want to migrate, since it works that
way in Word.

Thanks for a great job with OO!

PS: I know it is possible to reassign shortcuts to macros but that would be too
complicated for most users.
Comment 1 michael.ruess 2007-03-16 12:28:05 UTC
Reassigned to ES.
Comment 2 eric.savary 2007-03-17 13:00:16 UTC
Saying "most users want it like this" is barely your feeling.
We need a real case of a lot of people wanting for it before taking action.

Some things speak against this feature request:
1) We are not found of changing shortcuts or defaults in general because of a
lot of dependencies.
2) As you said, it is customable but it is not sooooo hard to do.
3) "I" never needed this feature, so it already makes 50% of the users NOT
needing it ;)
4) -> the most important: Ctrl+PgUp/Dn has been set for accessibility reasons.
Disabled people really need a default to reach Header and Footer with the
keyboard. So, please provide then an other keyboard shortcut for Header/Footer
before we can start thinking about changing this.
Comment 3 herjolf 2007-03-18 19:41:44 UTC
Yes I agree that shortcuts should not be changed easily but in this case I see
reasons for it.

1. Yes it is CUSTOMABLE but from my experience through the years with IT-users,
they make little changes to the default settings since they often assume the
program works as it is. So the better the default settings are the more
satisfied customers we get.

2. What â€You†need or â€I†need doesn´t prove anything but I assume we ALL can
engage ourselves in improving the OO suite and not belittle anyone. Sarcasm or
irony like this just makes people stop contributing, and I am sure none of us
want that. That only prevents us from improving the OO, which doesn´t serve our

3. Since Ctrl+PgUp/Dn today is activated first after the header/footer has been
inserted, I think a change to moving to the top of the next/previous page would
help the DISABLED more. They can use it right away.

4. When you have a several pages document I think it helps to know that you end
up at a certain place, the top of the document, when you move around. You don´t
have to think about where on the page you end up. This is also extra convenient
when you see the whole page on the screen.

5. I tried to find another shortcut for moving between body and header/footer
but found none so far. Will continue looking though. Ctrl+H (Header) seems to be
available but Ctrl+F is not, so I´ll keep on looking. 

Let´s remember that a person who tests/uses OO can only assume and guess the
response by the market since he can not do a market research. We can ALL be
wrong, and sometimes are of course, but let us have an attitude of helping OO to
improve, instead of â€defending†what it is today. THEN we are open enough to see
that which can be improved.