Issue 79809

Adding macport to cc.

This will affect/improve the X11 version too.

This is a follow up to a comment in issue 79304

artguy: Are you able to improve the icons for OpenOffice.org?

I'm thinking that this should be re-assigned to marketing>art.

I think I would be able to improve the other icons, too. But after a couple days
when I get the chance.

@ kendy: please have a look.

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ericb@artguy10

I have closed 79811, 79812 , Shaun closed 79813 ... 

Why all those issues ?

When I submitted the bug, it just didn't do anything, so I tried again... and
again... and it still didn't work so I emailed OOo.

Created attachment 46966 [details]
Smaller main icon; don't really know if this fixes the cause of the problem; icon still looks dirty on right-edge

I'm not sure if I made it a little _too_ small, but I replaced the icon on my
Mac and can't find the original to make other changes. Could someone upload the
original or take care of it themselves?
(Also, downsizing it effects all sizes of the icns file, right? Are the smaller
versions already the right size, or are they too big, too?)

In the Resources folder of the OOo app, there are over 30 icons. Must they all
be changed?

Why not download another build of ooo to get the icons from there?

Reassigning to artguy10, since he knows what he's doing.

Please also update all the other app icons in the .app for when they are used in the future when` we 
introduce separate apps. The file names end -app.icns

confirming

Alright, I'll see what I can do. smsm1, thanks for the suggestion; now I
remember I still have the .dmg file. :)

started work

artguy10 : please have a look at :
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=43000

But maybe this is the old version you'll find attached, and better use the icons
in the bundle.

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Created attachment 47054 [details]
Experimenting with just the main icon for now, here are my results, and please give me feedback. I downsized the icon (layer, not transparent background) using Gimp (bicubic) to 115px. The size is now nice for use in the dock. However, it is noticeably s

Experimenting with just the main icon for now, here are my results, and please
give me feedback. I downsized the icon (layer, not transparent background) using
Gimp (bicubic) to 115px. The size is now nice for use in the dock. However, it
is noticeably softer than the original. Furthermore, the smaller versions of the
icon have also decreased greatly in size by this downsizing (yet I don't know
their use anyhow). I'm thinking that using the actual SVGs would be better for
getting a sharper image, but I would only be able to recreate the largest icon
size with the tools I have (which may be fine for the Mac version?) Where are
the SVG originals?

Note: Actually, if I can get a png icon with multiple sizes, I can turn that
into an icns file. Is there a way to create multiple sizes of an image in the Gimp?

On third thought, perhaps (if other people think that is a good idea) I can
attempt to create icons for OOo for Mac to fit in with the crystal icon theme
common on Mac icons. Like, GIMP and Inkscape and Microsoft Office all have
unique icons for the Mac version, perhaps this should hold true for OpenOffice.org?

I found the SVG files for all but the main app icon.

Here is a proposal for a different icon stile for the Mac version, also.
(Perhaps I could use the symbol instead of the letter, or other changes, or just
stick with the standard, but here they are.)

Created attachment 47057 [details]
Impress orb suggestion

Created attachment 47058 [details]
Writer orb suggestion

On the topic of fixing the other icons, I can make the icns files for all the
icons at the proper size without the dirty edge with the smaller versions as
part of the icns file. The only thing is that I am unsure whether the smaller
versions will have the proper size; I don't know how they are used.

Created attachment 47059 [details]
base resized

Created attachment 47060 [details]
calc resized

Created attachment 47061 [details]
draw resized

Created attachment 47062 [details]
impress resized

Created attachment 47063 [details]
main resized (though not from SVG file)

Created attachment 47064 [details]
math resized

Created attachment 47065 [details]
writer resized

Alright, that's all the icons for Mac, resized.

Please verify:
That I got all of them
That they are at a good size
That it is okay regarding the sizes of the smaller versions contained in the
icns file

Okay, is that it? Will they be included in the next build for Mac? Is there
something else I have to do, or can I mark the issue as fixed?

So the main app icns file will appear in the Applications folder, and that will
open the OpenOffice.org Application sub-folder containing the different apps?

Actually, there might be a porblem.

I got the SVGs from a banner for OpenOffice.org. I just noticed that these SVGs
have a different seagull type; they are solid white with a black boarder instead
of a 3D-like gradient with a shadow.

Of course, I could take the SVGs I have to re-create the icons with the proper
look, and I could recreate the oo2-main-app.icns also, but is there an SVG
source for this already somewhere?

Created attachment 47066 [details]
here's the side-by-side

artguy10: Have you signed a JCA?

No... I'm not sure what that is; I never came across it on this site.

Is that some kind of Java architecture, or something about project planning?

Ohhhh... http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/faq-licensing.html#jca1

So it is needed before making new artwork for OpenOffice.org, am I correct? The
purpose, I suppose, is so that Sun doesn't get into any legal trouble for using
contributions?

Well, would it just be nice if before uploading anything you could just mark "I
agree".

I'm wondering if Sun would use my personal information in the JCA for any
purpose (like sending me emails, giving info to third parties, etc). I think
they probably don't, but I want to be sure. On Sun's privacy policy, they said,
"If you choose to provide us with your Personal Information on the Web, we may
transfer that Information within Sun or to Sun's third-party service providers,
across borders, and from your country or jurisdiction to other countries or
jurisdictions around the world."
That troubles me a little; so is the JCA only needed for new icon ideas, or even
if I just resize them for OpenOffice?

artguy10: The JCA is only used for the confirming of contributors to OpenOffice.org. Your name will 
appear at http://www.openoffice.org/copyright/copyrightapproved.html Other than for checking that you 
have signed the JCA, your details are not used based on the information provided on the form. This will 
allow you to submit code and make contributions to OpenOffice.org without a problem in the future.

Alright.

So I just email the filled-out form to them, and I can contribute?
I won't get phone calls and mail and stuff from them, will I?

artguy10: that's correct

Alright, I filled-out and emailed the form.

Now back to work. Where are the SVG source files for the existing icons? Should
I simply modify existing icons? Should entirely new icons be made?

Can anyone confirm that the resized icons are acceptable? Could anyone give
input about location of the SVG files of the current icons or whether logos
modified in any way for the Mac version would be acceptable?

Should I close the issue? What needs to be done for the icns files to be
included in the next build for Mac?

I found some excellent icons for OpenOffice from Crystal Clear, which I think
would fit in better with the Mac's Aqua/crystal theme. Perhaps we can get a
written statement for these to be open source, or at least permission for use in
the program?

Created attachment 47328 [details]
Example icon from Crystal Clear: NOT self made

Excuse me, but I have never before been assigned an issue, so I do not know how
to update the actual program, or if that is left to someone else. I'm asking
again: Are the resized icons that I put up OK? Is there a better SVG source for
me to use? Should I modify the existing icons? Should I create a new icon set
for the Mac version? Could the Crystal Clear icons (which are under a free
license and you could probably get permission from the author also) be used, as
they would best fit in with the Mac OS X theme? I need some feedback. Should I
change the resolution of this issue to FIXED?

I'm uploading the OpenOffice.org icons from Crystal Clear, which I think are
under the LGPL. I think they would be much more fitting for the Mac version of
OpenOffice.org (even if I could resize the regular icons), and it is not unusual
for a company to greatly modify their icons when it comes to Mac OS X...

Created attachment 47545 [details]
Base (crystal clear)

Created attachment 47546 [details]
Calc (Crystal Clear)

Created attachment 47547 [details]
Draw - Crystal Clear

Created attachment 47548 [details]
Impress - Crystal Clear

Created attachment 47549 [details]
Main - Crystal Clear

Created attachment 47550 [details]
Main - Crystal Clear

Created attachment 47551 [details]
Math - Crystal Clear

Created attachment 47552 [details]
Writer - Crystal Clear

Created attachment 47553 [details]
Alternative Main (Crystal Clear)

Don't mark it as fixed until it is  commited to CVS, I can create the CWS to get it commited.

I think that a JCA is required.

To get a better response a mail to mac@porting.ooo would be best. Note many people are on holiday just 
now.

Okay, I emailed them.

I'm sure you could get permission (in JCA format) from Everaldo Coelho
(http://www.everaldo.com/contact/) to use these icons. I'll contact him about it...

(I myself signed the JCA, so I could also make icons, btw.)

Actually, mac@porting.ooo is not a valid email address. How do I contact them?

And I did email Everaldo. I hope we can use his icons.

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