Issue 100262 - "Restart Numbering" on first list item not preserved
Summary: "Restart Numbering" on first list item not preserved
Status: CONFIRMED
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: editing (show other issues)
Version: OOo 3.0.1
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial with 1 vote (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Keywords: numbering
: 104721 (view as issue list)
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Blocks:
 
Reported: 2009-03-17 12:08 UTC by lendo
Modified: 2017-05-20 11:18 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Issue Type: DEFECT
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First Restart Numbering not preserved with righclick context menu (8.31 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2009-03-17 12:14 UTC, lendo
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Description lendo 2009-03-17 12:08:39 UTC
The first numbered list of a document doesn't keep "Restart Numbering" after
reopening if it was set with right-click and context menu only. It only keeps
the setting using "Paragraph... > Outline & Numbering > Numbering" with "Restart
at this paragraph" and "Start with 1".

Normally it is not necessary that this setting is preserved for the first
numbered list in a document. But:
* If this document is part of a Master Document, then the false setting results
in confusing/false numbering if you don't use the (more complicated) paragraph
dialog.
* User setting should always be preserved after saving the document - and not
get lost.
Comment 1 lendo 2009-03-17 12:14:02 UTC
Created attachment 60976 [details]
First Restart Numbering not preserved with righclick context menu
Comment 2 michael.ruess 2009-03-17 13:16:57 UTC
MRU->OD: a "Restart numbering" on the first paragraph of a list will only be
saved when a new "start with" number has been assigned. This can be of interest
for Master-/Sub-documents using list styles and outlines.
Comment 3 michael.ruess 2009-09-22 09:48:23 UTC
*** Issue 104721 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 4 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann 2009-10-14 16:05:37 UTC
setting keyword "numbering"
Comment 5 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann 2009-12-11 13:37:27 UTC
Hm...
Thinking about this problem it comes to my mind that a list in a sub document of
a master document is its own list which should in no situation continue any
other list which does not occur in its sub document.
Thus, to solve this problem I would change the code which integrates the content
of a sub document into the master document. But I do not know if this is the
user expectation.

It is not clear due to limited resources that this issue is solved for OOo 3.3.
To be honest I am adjusting the target.
Comment 6 lendo 2010-02-18 08:23:46 UTC
Lendo->OD: What's the difference between a) making the first numbered list of a
document preserved and b) changing the behavior of lists in sub documents of
master documents? What's easier to change in the source code?

For my part, I think it's better to change a) which will fix b) anyway - but b)
will not fix a)(?). Or do I misunderstand something?
Comment 7 agosse 2010-02-18 09:53:28 UTC
I use sub documents for certification exams and I depend on the ability for
numbering to increment across sub-documents in the master.  i.e. the questions
for each subject in the exam are in separate sub-documents.  Some of my exams 
are for a basic-level certification, some are for advanced-only and some are for
a combined course.  It's really helpful that the numbering doesn't restart
between sub-documents - so please don't "fix" that.  :-)
Comment 8 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann 2010-02-18 10:19:41 UTC
od->lendo:
Taking the perspective from the ODF side makes somehow the difference.
If you have an ODF document (which a sub document of a master document would
be), the storing of additional information at the first numbered list about its
restarting properties is completely redundant in case that restart value is not
given. OOo could nevertheless store this information, but other ODF supporting
applications does not have to do it. Thus, OOo have to handle not only documents
created by OOo correctly.

From the ODF perspective my statement that lists in sub documents can in no way
continue lists from other sub documents or the master document is right.

od->agosse:
Thanks for your view on this. Your view was the reason for my previous statement
"... But I do not know if this is the user expectation. ..."
Unfortunately, your view/expectation is not really possible in ODF.
Comment 9 vylum 2010-03-10 08:42:23 UTC
I don't know the take of the master document in ODF, but it seems to me the
restart numbering could be implemented as a property for the subdocument
*within* the master document. When inserting a subdocument you could then
specify to restart numbering in its list(s) (my preferable default) or continue
numbering from previous subdocument. That way full control is available for the
creator/maintainer of the master doument and the creators/maintainers of
subdocuments don't have to take into account whether or not the document is to
be used in a master document and how the numbering should be handled in the
master document.

just my 2cts.

Willem
Comment 10 Marcus 2017-05-20 11:18:09 UTC
Reset assigne to the default "issues@openoffice.apache.org".