Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Issue 104691
Alphabetical Indexes cross-reference
Last modified: 2014-04-02 13:15:17 UTC
Alphabetical Indexes cross-reference Hi, sorry for my English. You can not create cross-reference in the Insert Index dialog box. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Wr iter_Guide/Creating_an_alphabetic_index#Adding_index_entries cross-reference examples Beijing......see China Belgium...........p 8-10 China.............p 27-29 Greenland.........p 12-14 Madrid.......see Spain Spain.............p 18-31 MsWord can do http://word.tips.net/FigFiles/T1900F1.html Indexing unresolved issues: http://www.bayside-indexing.com/embed.htm
Reassigned to requirements.
This issue is similar: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=24250
Very important feature on the build of a good index
Please implemented this feature! OOo writer indexing tools needs improvement. Alphabetical index is CRUCIAL for academic use and publishing. Creating a basic working index requires a small, but essential set of functions. Missing one or more of these features severely affects the ability to create an effective index. I recommend reading this papaer (in particular pages 6 and 7) http://www.allegrotechindexing.com/indexingtools.pdf Issues very important Allowing more than one Alphabetical Index http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=6401 Footnotes are not included in Alphabetical Index http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=32392 Alphabetical Indexes cross-reference http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=104691 Index markers do not support cross references or bookmarks http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=24250 Alphabetical index: allow marking pages as entry range even if the keyword doesn't appear on every pages http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=94565 A very interesting idea Navigator should also list all Index Entries http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=61643
SEE / SEE ALSO See: Refers you from an unused term to a used term. For example, "ornithology, see birds" means that anything about birds in this document is listed under birds in the index, not under the more scientific term of ornithology. In the index, only birds has a page number reference. See also: Refers you to other used terms related to this one. These terms may be "siblings" or "children" of the parent term. For example, you may see "birds, see also reptiles". Both terms are at an equal level, so are "siblings. However, "birds, see also eagles, flamingos, parakeets" refer to terms that are narrower than the parent term birds, so are "child" terms. All terms are listed in the index with their respective page number references. For those that want something automatic the Index generation must provide: see: If there is only one index mark (inserted for a cross reference). see also: If there are more than one index mark (inserted for a cross reference). OpenOffice...........................7,8,12,21 Word Processor......................See Writer Writer.............1,8,11; See also OpenOffice For greater compatibility with MsWord should include the possibility of cross- references user-defined. The XE Field: {XE "main heading:subheading one" \t "See cross-reference"}
The simplest solution is to let the user to define cross-reference (as in MSWord). Note that both “See also” and “See” cross-references are completely internal to the index, and as such do not have page numbers. And because they do not have page numbers, the index markers can be placed anywhere in the text. Theoretically it would be enough add a sixth page in the "Insert Index/Table dialog-box" (Insert > Indexes and Tables > Indexes and Tables) where you can insert and customize the appearance of entries with cross references. The index markers of entries with cross references could be included by convention at the end of the document or chapter.
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Are not a developer ... I just thought how to change the UI to allow the use of cross-references in alphabetical indexes. The restyling should be minimal! Attachment http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/70099/104691.pdf I apologize for my English best regards Carl
Anyone who has seen an index, knows that this feature is necessary! Helmut
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Is very urgent solve this issue (IMHO)! MSWORD enables this feature and when you import a lot of information is lost! The index entries are marked as cross references lose their reference and are transformed into index entries, even if there not are in the document. Code field (MsWord) of the index entry and a the cross-reference: [OpenOffice.org]{XE "OpenOffice.org"}{XE "Office Automation" \t "See OpenOffice.org"} [OpenOffice.org] -----> the text is marked in the document {XE "OpenOffice.org"} --> is the normal index entry {XE "Office Automation" -> is the index entry (not present in the text but only in index) \t "See OpenOffice.org"} -> is the cross-reference should be OpenOffice.org.......................page# Office Automation.......see OpenOffice.org instead it is imported so Office Automation...........page# OpenOffice.org..............page# errors: -remove the cross reference -creates an index entry (Office Automation) that does not exist in the document. I attach a sample document. http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/70239/TEST.doc
This issue is very important. However, we must understand how to import and export msword cross-references. msword code field \ t "See OpenOffice.org" "See" is in italics The Writer fields not allow for direct formatting ( Issue 106199 ).
to 00oit You're right. One solution might be to insert the Cross reference in the text as hidden text (The hidden text accepts direct formatting). See my commentary on the Issue 24250 However, it must first resolve the Issue 104107 for proper use of cross-references. To achieve this in this order: Cars, see also Motor vehicles custom, 568-571 family, 257, 570 "Cars" is Entry of the Cross-reference and is the 1st key of "custom" and "family" (Issue 104107). Some rules: http://www.wiley.com/legacy/authors/guidelines/stmguides/5content.htm#CROSS
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I like the idea of drop-down list proposed by "carlpaulooo". http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/70099/104691.pdf Here is my proposal with some variations. Bye Nic
Hi, my job is to write technical manuals and to me this issue is essential! Even in the context of academic institutions, Indexing tools are a must - have for users - and I would very much enjoy being able to use OOo Writer for my work-related purposes as well! Best of luck Jonathan
The Index Entry with cross-reference is used once in a document, because it has no page numbers. Some examples: MsWord: { XE "OOo" \t "See OpenOffice.org" } LaTeX: \index { OOo|see{OpenOffice.org }} DocBook: <indexterm><primary>OOo</primary><see>OpenOffice.org</see></indexterm> ODF 1.2 is supported for this feature? <text:alphabetical-index-mark text:string-value="..." text:key1="..." text:key2="..." text:main-entry="true or false"/> It seems not, but I'm not a developer... Don't panic? ODF should be improved? Kind regards
I'm sorry, I realize now that this issue is a duplicate of issue 114869 I copied from the issue 114869 --- I have a suggestion for an enhancement. (I'm a bit surprised by the lack of this feature.) PROBLEM: A type of index entries that point to related entries, instead of a page number, is a common option in alphabetical index, it is key structural component of an effective index. However, this option is still missing. Please fill this gap. MOTIVATIONS: * It is common practice across printed material! http://www.theindexer.org/files/17-3/17-3_178.pdf * ISO 999: 1996 (para.4) goes into detail. Users seeking information under terms not chosen as headings should be directed to the chosen heading by see references. Relationships between concepts should be indicated by the heading/sub-heading (index keys) status and by see also references. * Interoperability with Microsoft Word. * Potential users: - Education/Academic - Technical writer - Lawyers - Publishing * Aside from that, it is very useful for the reader. SUGGESTIONS: Should be at least two types of cross references: 1."See/see also" forms, where the term referred to is a specific entry elsewhere in the index. Adobe InDesign automatically determines whether to use the "See..." form (if there are no other entries) or the "See also" form (if there are). http://help.adobe.com/en_US/InDesign/6.0/WSA556ED6A-9A1A-4ed3-8CC0-5F7D69C760DCa.html I wish I had something similar. 2."Custom" form, where you can type any kind of cross-reference you prefer, such as "See also under", "see above" or "also look up". Microsoft Word provides only this type. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word-help/create-an-index-HP001226499.aspx#BM1 --- OpenOffice.org is a great software, however, I had more of a problem with alphabetical indexes. I tried to gather some information (Issue Tracker and Web) about these problems. http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/71959/Alphabetical_Index.pdf Hope this helps someone. Thanks for your attention (I hope my English was limpid). Klaus
*** Issue 114869 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***