Issue 107109 - Quick-navigating text with CTRL + Arrowkeys is unpractical
Summary: Quick-navigating text with CTRL + Arrowkeys is unpractical
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Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: editing (show other issues)
Version: OOO310m19
Hardware: Unknown Linux, all
: P3 Trivial with 6 votes (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Reported: 2009-11-22 10:42 UTC by typist
Modified: 2013-08-07 14:38 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Description typist 2009-11-22 10:42:52 UTC
Small problem, but annoying effect:

when at the beginning of the last word in a line, CTRL + Right-arrow will
navigate the cursor to the beginning of the next word, be it several lines below.

The reverse procedure works accordingly.

So, if we want to add a word at the end of the line, there's no other method,
but to step through every single letter from the last word's beginning, till to
its end, unless, we use this alternative procedure:

- Down-arrow
- Navigate to beginning of 1st word of the next line
- Left-arrow (jumping to the last character of the line above)

If the last word in a line, or the first one in the following line, is very
long, it gets really uncomfortable.
Comment 1 eric.savary 2009-11-22 14:12:57 UTC
Not a P1.
Reassigned to Requirements
Comment 2 2009-11-23 02:37:35 UTC
Using the End key seems to be a simpler choice to me.
Comment 3 typist 2009-11-23 13:25:18 UTC
Granted, END does work, but using arrow keys is more convenient, for they're
placed at the lower edge of the keyboard.
Comment 4 typist 2009-12-03 20:15:44 UTC
Another point to keep in mind:

- END key is differently placed on many keyboards, cursor keys mostly are not
and are quite better accessible

- for END key you'll have to lift your fingers from the usual navigation
position and look it up 

- GUI design not only has to be logical, but also intuitive, keys are much more
intuitive to use with CTRL and ALT (used in many programs)

- implementation of the navigation should be straightforward and continuous in
experience; while it seems an continuous implementation in a logical way, to
always advance to the next word's beginning (be it several lines below), it is
not quite while actually using the writer

-> suggestion: the advancing of the cursor should be dependent, on if the next
word is in a new line, and if it is, the advancing should only go for the
current word's end
Comment 5 c.burais 2012-02-21 16:18:25 UTC

I strongly agree with "typist", to me, it's more friendly when typing a lot of documents to have the following behaviour :

Ctrl+rightarrow go to the end of the current word.
Ctrl+leftarrow go to the beginning of the current word.
ctrl+rightarrow go at the end of the line when this is the last word of the line and not to the other line.

shift+downarrow select all the words of the sentence and not the beginning of the following line.

ctrl+shift+right should select with the same behaviour as to say, select the current word until the end of the word and not the space after. 
And selecting the last word of a line with ctrl+shift+right 

Reasons :
--> This is the common behaviour for text navigation, like in this "textarea" of this website, I'm currently typing in, under Firefox. 
==> So we don't have to change our mind when switching between severoal applications.
--> When navigate to correct something at the first word it should not navigate to the previous line but only to the first word. 
--> When  navigate to the last word of a sentence it should not go to the next line, because we are on the line we want to correct and not the previous or the following line.
--> when we want to correct the end of a word it is more easy to go directly at the end of the word to correct or complete. 
--> That's the same when we want to correct the beginning of a word.

The non friendly current behaviour can easily see when dealing with bullet points : selecting only the current point is not possible, Writer select the following bullet and not only the last word.
Other case : want to select the line before a list of bullet points it is not possible with shift+down, it select the first bullet point with... annoying to !

This behaviour is very very very annoying in any case.

This Requirement should be marked as "very critical" ;) because it's very important for those who are hard user of "word processor" like me.
sometime I want to go back to another word processor just because of this...

Thanks a lot for all and your great work !
Comment 6 metactyptic 2013-02-01 16:20:56 UTC
I confirm the annoying behavior of navigating with the common ctrl+arrows.
please change the behavior !
Like explained it