Issue 124473 - No dictionary included in Language packs
Summary: No dictionary included in Language packs
Alias: None
Product: Installation
Classification: Application
Component: code (show other issues)
Version: 3.4.1
Hardware: All All
: P3 Normal with 2 votes (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
QA Contact:
: 124424 (view as issue list)
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Reported: 2014-03-20 18:38 UTC by Rainer Bielefeld
Modified: 2019-09-02 18:19 UTC (History)
6 users (show)

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Issue Type: DEFECT
Latest Confirmation in: 4.2.0-dev
Developer Difficulty: ---


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Description Rainer Bielefeld 2014-03-20 18:38:10 UTC
Because of Andre's Comment in "Issue 124423 - No dictionary is included in 4.1.0 Beta PT" I reported a new Bug here.

I installed server installation of "AOO 4.1.0-Beta [AOO410m14(Build:9760)  -  Rev. 1573601 2014-03-03 17:47:48]" on German WIN7 Home Premium (64bit)", own separate user profile, with en-US as base and Language packs for Frenhc, Polish, German, Spanish. I can't see Dictionaries for German, and other language packs, only several English dictionaries are available.

I checked the CAB of the German Language pack: no "dict_de_DE_frami_2012_06_17.oxt"

I did not test de complete installer.

Server installation of "AOO 4.1.0-Dev – German UI / German locale - [AOO410m1(Build:9750) - Rev. 1537508 - 2013-11-02]" on German WIN7 Home Premium (64bit)", own separate user profile, from complete installer Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_de.exe. In the .cab of that installer I find "dict_de_DE_frami_2012_06_17.oxt"

I doubt that that missing dictionary is intended, looks like a showstopper if it's a regression from 4.0.1. Any experience with language packs for that version?
Comment 1 Rainer Bielefeld 2014-03-20 18:44:17 UTC
No dictionary in Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Win_x86_langpack_de.exe CAB, too!
Comment 2 Rainer Bielefeld 2014-03-20 19:06:43 UTC
Also can't find a german dict in Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.1_Win_x86_langpack_de.exe CAB

Comment 3 Pedro 2014-03-20 23:47:24 UTC
I can confirm that installing the French Language pack does NOT install any dictionary/spelling extensions.
Since I'm not allowed to change the Status of the bug, you will have to do that yourself Rainer ;)
Comment 4 Rainer Bielefeld 2014-03-21 05:56:13 UTC
Confirmed due to Comment 3

I wonder whether it's intended not to include dictionaries to langue packs? But I can't imagine why.

I found a 3.3.0 Languepack_de on 
what contains "de_DE_frami.dic", "README_de_DE_frami.txt", "de_DE_frami.aff"
Nothing similar in 3.4.1 de languepack.

Simply forgotten?
Comment 5 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann 2014-03-21 09:35:36 UTC
I also assume that it had been forgotten to pack dictionaries into the language packs as we had to change the bundling of dictionaries due to license issues. Thus, I think we had overseen the language packs.
Comment 6 Rainer Bielefeld 2014-03-21 09:57:01 UTC
(In reply to Oliver-Rainer Wittmann from comment #5)
> Thus, I think we had overseen the language packs.

Sounds plausible. Is it simple to to take dictionaries and installation routines from the complete localized installation packs or is any support required?
Comment 7 Andrea Pescetti 2014-03-23 23:36:05 UTC
This has been discussed on the dev list some months ago, but with no conclusinve answer:

Anyway, I confirm that at the moment we don't include dictionaries in Language packs, only in full builds.
Comment 8 Andrea Pescetti 2014-03-26 16:57:03 UTC
*** Issue 124424 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 9 jolatt 2014-08-01 07:46:03 UTC
In this context you should consider issue 120350.
Comment 10 Peter 2019-09-02 18:19:43 UTC
From the discussion [1] argument highlights:

Two notes to consider:

1. Bundled dictionaries are included with a specific legal exception. This would probably extend to language packs, but I'm not looking into it.

2. Including dictionaries in language packs would create the issue of what to do in some cases. For example, the Italian build contains the English dictionary. I may install OpenOffice in Italian and then a few months later a new English dictionary is available and I update the dictionary. Then I decide to install the English language pack that still has the old dictionary. 

Contra argument for 2)
This is really not a valid argument. Even for the very few users that would install a language pack months after installing the full suite, this "problem" would be solved on the following day when Extension Manager checks for new versions of the dictionary.

My personal Conclusion:
In order to do this we need to look into standardization.