Issue 13531 - dashes and hyphens - report based on 1.1beta
Summary: dashes and hyphens - report based on 1.1beta
Status: CLOSED DUPLICATE of issue 5018
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: code (show other issues)
Version: OOo 1.1 Beta
Hardware: All Windows 2000
: P3 Trivial with 2 votes (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Oliver Specht
QA Contact: issues@sw
: 5838 21131 23588 (view as issue list)
Depends on:
Reported: 2003-04-17 02:06 UTC by vliscony
Modified: 2013-08-07 14:38 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

See Also:
Issue Type: DEFECT
Latest Confirmation in: ---
Developer Difficulty: ---


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Description vliscony 2003-04-17 02:06:54 UTC
dashes do not work as advertised in the instructions in Help.

This table will represent the results, which you can't see on email, but you can 
reproduce at will.

Hyphen:		Word-word	(hyphen)
Minus:		word-word	(hyphen)
SpecChar213		word?word	(en-dash)
Minus+Spaces	word ? word	(en-dash with weird spaces)
SpecChar214	      word?word 	(em-dash)
2 Minus signs	word?word 	(em-dash)
2Minus + Spaces	word ? word	(en-dash with weird spaces)

moreover trying to create a better solution with the replacement table failed, 
because shift+control+S brings up ICQ on my Win2K box, not Insert Special 
Comment 1 vliscony 2003-04-17 22:32:41 UTC
the method of generating an em-dash with two minus signs also is 
triggered in typing by the space after the following word, but fails 
if there is a punctuation mark abutting the emdash, 
e.g. ...the so-called "Hottentots"--and they were a very influential 
Comment 2 khendricks 2003-04-18 00:43:21 UTC
I am not sure this is a lingucompoment issue.  MySpell and friends only get what the main 
breakiterator code in OOo proper send it. 
I think you are referring to the autocorrect feature which is not under the 
lingucomponent module. 
So I think the best way is to redirect this to in the hops that 
someone there can redirect this to the right module / developer. 
Comment 3 h.ilter 2003-04-22 09:47:33 UTC
Reassigned to MRU.ö
Comment 4 vliscony 2003-04-23 12:27:32 UTC
also noted that the emdash, 2 minus signs autocompletes in 1.0.2, and 
in 1.1beta it only auto completes after you put a space behind the 
last word, which is a pain when you are correcting something, for you 
have to delete a space and reinsert a space to make the emdash happen.
Comment 5 michael.ruess 2003-04-23 12:30:47 UTC
MRU->SBA: This is about AutoCorrect, not Spelling.
Comment 6 michael.ruess 2003-04-23 12:31:21 UTC
reassigned to sba.
Comment 7 vliscony 2003-04-23 13:25:36 UTC
also, I cannot control hyphenation, even if I specify to leave 3 or 4 
chars, it still breaks at 2.

Moreover while hyphenation is frequently not correct, I have not found 
a manual way to do hyphenation. But definitely the automatic 
hyphenation makes too many mistakes, and cannot be used in any 
professional documents.
Comment 8 vliscony 2003-04-23 14:28:44 UTC
Note: I am aware that the documentation says that <Ctrl><-> produces a 
soft hyphen, but that does not work as advertised, at least not in 1.
1beta. I've tried it, but it produces a hard hyphen which stays in 
place if the word subsequently rolls to the next line, so the upshot 
is there is no way currently to do professionally tolerable 
hyphenation either manually or automatically.
Comment 9 rblackeagle 2003-04-23 19:33:06 UTC
As a professional writer, this is a serious issue for me.
Comment 10 stefan.baltzer 2003-05-28 17:37:57 UTC
SBA->OS: This is related to issue 5838 (dash replacement & custom
quotes don't work at the same time). But this one here has a little
more to say so I don't set it to duplicate (maybe the other one?).
I think that the whole "dash thingie" must be re-thought. Even a
re-specification should be taken into account as well as a review of
the respective help texts. 
Comment 11 Regina Henschel 2003-05-31 14:14:33 UTC
I have tested all sorts of hyphen and dashes in S061.beta2german (isn't it 
the same as OOo1.1beta?) on win98 and they are all correct. I have insert them by 
specialkey and by <ctrl> and by the old SO5.2-way over <alt>0150 and <alt>0151. Also 
the dashes, which are filled in by replacement, are correct.
To me it looks, that 
only the odd behavior of replacement has to by improved.

Comment 12 Oliver Specht 2003-07-23 14:50:30 UTC
*** Issue 5838 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 13 Oliver Specht 2003-07-24 13:21:57 UTC
Comment 14 stefan.baltzer 2003-10-01 18:24:42 UTC
SBA: According to the roadmap
this issue was retargeted to OOo Later.
Comment 15 ingenstans 2004-01-14 09:52:49 UTC
*** Issue 23588 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 16 guido.pinkernell 2004-01-15 16:46:22 UTC
*** Issue 21131 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 17 stefan.baltzer 2007-07-18 17:05:03 UTC
SBA: In my opinion, this one is a duplicate of enhancement issue 5018.

*** This issue has been marked as a duplicate of 5018 ***
Comment 18 Mechtilde 2008-11-05 20:24:25 UTC
close the duplicate