Issue 14224 - Frame caption positioned wrongly
Summary: Frame caption positioned wrongly
Status: CONFIRMED
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: ui (show other issues)
Version: OOo 1.1 Beta
Hardware: PC All
: P3 Trivial with 6 votes (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Keywords: oooqa
: 17630 (view as issue list)
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Blocks:
 
Reported: 2003-05-08 01:52 UTC by bibhas
Modified: 2013-02-07 22:38 UTC (History)
6 users (show)

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Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT
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Developer Difficulty: ---


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Description bibhas 2003-05-08 01:52:04 UTC
Add a caption to a frame and the caption is displayed somewhere in the middle 
of the frame. It should be displayed below or above the frame depending on the 
caption's attribute.
Comment 1 prgmgr 2003-07-10 15:54:14 UTC
Thank you for using and supporting OOo.

It seems to work for me in 1.1 Beta 2.

If the problem still exists for you in 1.1 Beta 2, please attach a
document that demonstrates is problem and provide clear, simple step
by step instructions on how to reproduce the problem.
Comment 2 bibhas 2003-09-22 22:32:56 UTC
The problem still exists in RC4. Just add a frame to the writer 
document. Right click on it and select Caption. Make sure that the 
position field is set to Below. Add a caption text and click on OK. 
The caption text shows up within the frame's rectangle. It should 
show up below the rectangle.
Comment 3 guido.pinkernell 2003-11-02 15:03:23 UTC
Can confirm this with OOo 1.1.0(en).
Issue 17630 is a duplicate of this which also contains a demofile.
Comment 4 guido.pinkernell 2003-11-02 15:04:10 UTC
*** Issue 17630 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 5 h.ilter 2003-11-03 09:55:39 UTC
HI->OD: Reproducible lso in current version.
Comment 6 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann 2003-11-03 15:13:50 UTC
OD->HI:
A caption to a frame is inserted as a paragraph at the beginning
(above) or the end (below) of the content of the frame. Thus, the
described defect isn't a defect - it works as designed.
Comment 7 guido.pinkernell 2003-11-03 15:53:33 UTC
Then adding a caption to a frame is fundamentally different to adding
a caption to any other object, isn´t it?

Adding a caption to some object (graphics, OLE, ..., except frame)
-> add caption under/above object and put both into a new frame.

Adding a caption to frame
-> put caption into the frame.

But what if one wants to have a caption under/above a frame, just like
under/above any other object? Then the Insert Caption procedure would
need to put the existing frame into a new frame, wouldn´t it?
Comment 8 h.ilter 2003-11-04 10:36:23 UTC
Due to the different behavior of captions between frames and graphics,
this issue is set to Enhancement.
Comment 9 yedema 2005-12-23 12:51:11 UTC
This is also a problem in 2.0
Comment 10 scot23 2009-08-16 05:34:07 UTC
Are you sure this is an enhancement and not a defect ? 
When you click on a frame and then choose Insert->Caption,  it asks whether 
you want it "above" or "below".  
I think this implies that the caption should go either above or below the 
frame; not inside the frame. 

In many technical documents, the typical format is to put a box around a 
diagram and then put some form of numbered figure caption under the 
box.  This seems to be impossible in OOwriter. 
(Impossible, without importing the picture... suppose I want to draw it
inline within the frame). 

I am using OO310m11 (Build 9399)

Thanks, 
Comment 11 andbos 2009-12-22 16:27:33 UTC
The beginning or end placement isn't working in any way at all... If I draw a
rectangle in the middle of a frame, and then add a caption to the end, it might
show up to the right of the rectangle, in the upper half of the frame. This must
be a real bug, not an enhancement.

How are you supposed to use this function??? How are you supposed draw a simple
figure with an attached caption???
Comment 12 bettina.haberer 2010-05-21 14:45:56 UTC
To grep the issues easier via "requirements" I put the issues currently lying on
my owner to the owner "requirements". 
Comment 13 bmcmullin 2011-01-07 20:37:05 UTC
As long as the behaviour is not consistent with other captioning contexts, and
is contrary to user expectations, then I would classify this as a defect
(regardless of developer expectations or even specifications).

That said: a workaround is to manually create two frames, one nested inside the
other.  Set the caption on the outer frame: it will appear inside, at the top or
bottom as you wish; but still outside the inner frame. The border on the outer
frame should normally also be manually set to none. The "real" frame content
should be inserted inside the inner frame. The overall result is now similar to
what happens automatically with captioning in other contexts.