Issue 16679 - Unnecessary information loss when saving in MS Word format
Summary: Unnecessary information loss when saving in MS Word format
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: code (show other issues)
Version: OOo 1.1 Beta2
Hardware: PC Windows 98
: P3 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Keywords: oooqa
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Reported: 2003-07-10 18:10 UTC by n7dr
Modified: 2013-08-07 14:38 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Issue Type: DEFECT
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Example document that does not save correctly as a Word document (5.85 KB, application/octet-stream)
2003-07-10 18:12 UTC, n7dr
no flags Details
Example 1 (7.42 KB, application/octet-stream)
2003-09-25 10:29 UTC, caolanm
no flags Details
Example 2, output from impress (11.50 KB, application/octet-stream)
2003-09-25 10:32 UTC, caolanm
no flags Details

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Description n7dr 2003-07-10 18:10:47 UTC
I will be attaching a file to this report.


1. Open the file in the OOo Word Processor.
2. Save as Word 97/2000/XP document.
3. Open the Word document in MS Word.
  The contents of the image in the document are different (text missing).

This cannot be an intrinsic problem with Word, however, because:

1. Open the file in the OOo Word Processor.
2. Copy the image to the clipboard.
3. Paste the image into an MS Word document (in Word).
4. In Word, save the MS Word document.
5. Re-open the MS Word document (in Word).
  The image looks fine.

So I conclude that the problem is with the Save As Word 97/2000/XP filter.
Comment 1 n7dr 2003-07-10 18:12:20 UTC
Created attachment 7547 [details]
Example document that does not save correctly as a Word document
Comment 2 prgmgr 2003-07-11 04:34:41 UTC
Thank you for using and supporting OOo.

OOo supports text as part of the arrow object.

However, Word does not have the same feature.

So OOo's export is working.
Comment 3 prgmgr 2003-07-11 04:37:17 UTC
OOo is working as expected.
Comment 4 prgmgr 2003-07-11 04:37:30 UTC
Comment 5 n7dr 2003-07-24 23:30:04 UTC
OK. I don't understand why this behaviour is deemed acceptable, but
you're the boss.

Just to be really clear about this:

1. Paste drawing into Word.
2. Save Word document.

Picture is saved correctly, including the text.

1. Past drawing into OOo word processor.
2. Save as Word document.

Picture is not saved correctly (text missing).

If real Word handles the drawing properly (as it does), I honestly
don't understand why it's not a bug that OOo fails also to do so when
saving as a Word document.

If you close this again, I'll go away. Unhappily, and not
understanding. But I will shut up, go away and leave you to more
important things.

Comment 6 jack.warchold 2003-09-23 16:40:17 UTC
reassigned to mru

can you please take a look at this issue
Comment 7 michael.ruess 2003-09-25 08:10:49 UTC
Hm, I am not really sure, why the textboxes aren't displayed in
Word2000 or older versions. When opening the exported file with Word
XP, all textboxes are visible.

MRU->CMC: do you know about a restriction older versions of Word might
have with this? Or do we have to do a small adjustment in the filter?
Comment 8 caolanm 2003-09-25 10:29:33 UTC
Created attachment 9655 [details]
Example 1
Comment 9 caolanm 2003-09-25 10:32:25 UTC
Created attachment 9656 [details]
Example 2, output from impress
Comment 10 caolanm 2003-09-25 10:53:43 UTC
The boxes aren't missing, just too low in height to be seen. Something
to do with the "resize autotext to fit shape" property

cmc->sj: If I export the "Example 1" to ppt it looks fine in ppt 97
and 2003. If I cut and paste if from ppt (any version) to word (any
version) I get the problem described (as does opening the output .doc
from the original attachment in word 97 (though its ok in xp+)). I'm
wondering about the autoheight of the drawing text boxes, when the cut
and pasted shape in word is ungrouped the textbox does not appear to
have "resize autoshape to fit text" applied, but it does appear to
have it in the original ppt. Different defaults ? This might just be a
word problem and not our export. Perhaps something of the nature of
setting an explicit starting size for "fit shape to text" objects ?
Want to look into this ? if you don't think its your area we'll slog
through it over here.
Comment 11 sven.jacobi 2003-09-25 11:24:09 UTC
Yes, this seems interesting, but I have not enough to investigate this
at the moment. I am working on an improved AutoShapes support in our
drawing engine, if this is done, this Issue may probable be fixed.

I expect this, because the "size autoshape to fit text" will be
implemented with the next version of AutoShapes, currently this
feature is not supported

After my changes are done I will carry on this bug, I am expecting to
be able to give any further information in two month.
Comment 12 michael.ruess 2004-04-28 15:26:55 UTC
re-targeted to "OO later".