Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Issue 16877
New Page Style always applies to page 1
Last modified: 2017-05-20 11:29:38 UTC
1. Open a document with at least 2 pages. 2. Create a new page style, say Test. 2. Go to page 2. 3. Apply Test. Now Page 1 has style Test, or the first page with previous style Default. The result for page 2 of course depends on the Next-Style Option for Test. See also issue 7984.
This is confirmed in rc1 under Windows 2000. The workaround is to create the style first and then go to the foot of the preceding page and "insert ->manual break-> style" that has exactly the expected effect. But it is rotten UI design. If I am on page 56 of a document, then apply a fancy page style, I would expect it to apply to page 56, not page 1.
Ok, it seems we have a not intuitive feature handling here. In fact we have no defect, so I changed this issue to Enhancement. "Change the page-style only for the page where the cursor is, in easier way"
"By the Gods, I think we've got it!" This has been an irritating "feature" since 643c and it is not only counter-intuitive, but a really serious issue with writing larger documents. This is something some other word processors do easily (not many, though), and, as fine as OOo is, it would seem this should be a feature of OOo. New users, in particular (until they've spent several hours/days learning a work-around) are frustrated by this "feature."
I would not call this a "bad feature". It is at least inconsistent with the Help system, which says under Page Styles - changing individual pages: 1. Click in the page that you want to apply the page style to. etc.
This probably goes here, too: If a style is set for say right page only, the document only has right pages. The first time user is shocked to see they have no pages where to define there left page style. Since one popular use of right pages is for beginning sections (typically: forced-right, no headers of footers at all), it should be most useful if all non-default styles revert to default until otherwise linked. The first page style already is such a one page style: it kicks in on the same page where it is defined and is shut off immediately; it's the only style I never had problems with.
This is a serious issue. I can't begin to remember how many hours I have spent tweaking page styles to get a new style in a new section without the program "re-doing" all the previous styles on its own. It may be an "Enhancement" but it feels like a defect.
OK. The tidy enhacement is, when page styles are edited, to ask the user whether they want to change 1) only pages from now on, or 2) all pages already in this style. That should reduce confusion.
This bug makes complex page styles almost impossible to use. Can we please fix it? I have no idea who anyone thinks it is an "enhasement", the setting page styles doesn't do what it is supposed to, nor does it do what it is documented to do, instead, it does something close to random. There is only one good way to fix this bug: make the software does what the documentation says it should do right now: When you click on a page, and you apply a page style, it should apply to that page! What could be simpler or more correct?
I cant see how this is not a defect - the help doc clearly states that in order to change the page style for a particular page, you click in that page, then choose the new page style from the stylist. OOo should then apply that pagestyle to the selected page, not to page 1. This has nothing to do with modifying existing pages if you modify the pagestyle. (c.f. entry from andrewb Thu Dec 2 08:22:23 -0800 2004) This is purely and simply about being able to change the page style that should be applied to the chosen page. You don't even have to create a new style, just choose any style, and it will apply it to the first page, and not the page where the cursor is. And, FWIW, this is still a problem OOo 2.0
Still a problem in 2.0.1 and yes, it is a bug since it doesn't work as stated in the docs.
*** Issue 75541 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
I understand the need for page break in order to exactly border the area, since the usual natural text pages are fuzzy (depend just on amount of text) and the style might need the exact point, from-to, where it should be applied. However where they already ARE ordinary page breaks (Ctrl-Enter) in the text, the Stylist should automatically accept them as regular borders for page style purposes. So that if I put cursor on page and select a style for the page, Stylist should assign the style for the current page and all pages before and after, until it gets to the near page break (or start of document) before the actual page, and near page break (or document end) after the actual page. If I select more pages, it should assign the style to all pages included in selection, and in pages before the selection until page break (or document start) is reached, and after the selection until page break (or document end) is reached. However, I don't deny the natural pages to be able get the styles too. This could be the second phase of solving the problem. First, the styles should work at least for the pages that are explicitely ended with page break, and this not working is really bad..
The same happens to me in version 2.1 !!!!!!!!!!!! Why this big bug is still unrecovered?
Version 2.2.1 Still the same.... This "feature" seems very confusing. I think it's a bit odd that if i want to change a page's style, i got to go to the previous page and put in that page's page properties the next page's style. So i do that and my whole document changes. Until i came here to report this bug and found i had to insert a page break and then remove that blank page again. Wouldn't it be an option to ask the user if they want to change the style of the current page when they select one and insert a page/style break automaticly if they select [Yes]? Also as a side note to this, it might be nice to show visually where those breaks are in the document, as i had a bit of difficulty in getting the workaround to work. Probably because of removing the manual page break along with the new page that i didn't want. Also it might be a good idea to show all of these codes in a seperate code frame, like wordperfect used to do. (I think that would be a very good idea as it gives insight in more than just page styles and page breaks.) The code frame could then show something like: [DocumentStart][+DocumentSettings][PageStart][Heading1]Some text here[/Heading1][Bold]Some text here too.[/Bold][PageEnd][ManualPageBreak][PageStart][PageStyle=SomePageStyle][DocumentEnd] (The plus sign in the [DocumentSettings] tag would then be a way to fold/unfold the contents of the tag) Of cause this is just a quick draft and would need to be thought about more carefully, but it might be a nice idea and it could be useful for debugging too as it would show exactly what is happening with the document content and why something might not work as expected..
Hi Mathias, I have changed the current owner to your owner. Please take the ownership of these enhancements.
I wonder this issue is over 4 years old, voted, and still not targeted..
This issue is duplicate of #17203
I'd better say, that #17203 is duplicate of this issue.
*** Issue 96612 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
*** Issue 19328 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
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