Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Issue 17282
Extraneous blank page in Master Document with Manual Page Break
Last modified: 2005-01-24 22:28:12 UTC
Adding a Manual Page Break after a certain number of documents requires the entry of blank "Text" before the new pagination occurs. Start a Master Document using a template. Write several test files each based on the same template. Make sure that the Heading style for the first line of each of the test files includes a "Break Before" with a specific page style. Set up two groups -- one with pagination as latin (i, ii, iii, ...) and the rest with Arabic numerals (1,2,3, ...). Write some text at the beginning (to force template styles to work in the MD). "Create Master Document" from this document. Now insert a file from the "Latin" group as a sub-doc. Insert all of that group. Each should start with a new page. There should be an extra blank page where two odd numbered pages follow one another -- as expected -- and not when an even page precedes an odd numbered page. Now enter (using the Navigator)"Text" (Insert > Text). Going to the "Text" of your test MD, Insert > Manual Break > with page style (the "Arabic" page style) beginning with "1". Now add the remaining sub-documents. After the Latin text, you will find a blank page that has the style you requested and "page 1" -- so that the first page of your text will be "page 3" instead of "page 1". EXPECTED BEHAVIOR: The Manual Break should insert no extraneous pages at all and the first page of the new numbering sequence should be "1" and not "3". Attached is an illustration of the page layout with a partial view of the last page of the italics (footer is lost on reloading -- sorry) and the extraneous blank page and another showing a Print Preview with the extra page. The attachments are added in two other submissions.
Created attachment 7952 [details] Illustration of MD layout
Created attachment 7953 [details] Page Preview of extraneous page - pages 1, 2, 3 and 4
This actually appears fixed in RC3. I will do some more testing and report back.
It IS fixed in RC3. Thanks, guys!
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Dang! This needs to be reopened. It is NOT fixed in 1.1.2rc. I am completely unable to renumber beginning with a "1" when there is an intervening blank page caused by having two odd page numbers back to back. What I want is "Page xvii" followed the main text of the book and the first page being "Page 1." What I get is a blank page (which can neither be edited nor changed in any manner) followed by my main text beginning with "Page 2." If I use the page offset, then the index and TOC will be wrong. Please take another look at this.
Reopened
HI->ES: Please investigate.
Please attach the document itself to issue.
No. I will NOT attach the document I was working on. I will, however, create a simpler example and attach it and the sub-documents. It will be awhile as I'm going into the hospital for tests. To reproduce. Open a text document based on any template. Send -> Create Master Document Create sub-doc based on template with some page style set in document. In the MD, type in anything to get to page 3. Insert the sub-doc anyway you want with a Manual Break with page style and new number starting at "1". Result: Blank page plus new numbering starts at "2". If you don't want to do this, please wait until I can send examples.
No problem, I will wait for a sample document.
Created attachment 15033 [details] Template for Test Documents
Created attachment 15034 [details] MD Test Case
Created attachment 15035 [details] Test Case File - Introduction
Created attachment 15036 [details] Test Case File - Chapter 1
The documents submitted should resolve to this MD: Cover page (page 1, absolute) Style: _IC_Cover Title page (page 3, absolute) Style: _IC_Title Introduction (page "1"; page 5, absolute) Style: _IC_FrontMatter_FP Chapter 1 (page "3"; page 7, absolute) Style: _IC_FP Notice that trying to set everything right causes styles to change almost at random.
- Blank pages: you get blank pages because most of your page styles have a page layout set to "only right" (Format - Page - [Page] - Page layout). If you want to print on a on odd pages only, you probably won't like to see blank even pages in your document on the screen, will you? So these pages are hidden in edit mode. Vevertheless, even pages always *exist* in the real world and the printer (especially in duplex mode) has to know that you whish not to print on even page. For this reason, blank pages are added automatically in the print preview and when printing to reflect the reality of your document. - Wrong page number on last page: due to the fact that you forced many times the page number to a specific one in the page styles, the last page does not automatically start at 1. You can easily correct this: - set the cursor in the paragraph called "This is the First Document" - Format - Paragraph - Text flow - Breaks - [X] Enable - [X] With page Style - set the Page number to 1. Hope this helps
I know and expect the even page breaks. For example, if the last page of one document is 13, the next one would be 15 with a blank between. That is NOT an EXTRANEOUS BLANK PAGE. What I am talking about is that sometimes (I will have to create an example with my next book), there will be three blank pages. Your solution will not work as the styles in the MD override styles of the same name in the sub-docs. If there are several sub-docs, I do NOT want every single document beginning with page 1. That's why the need for a manual break within the MD as setting the heading style to force a page 1 (if in the template or the MD) will get every single sub-doc starting at a new page 1. Considerations for the TOC and indexes make that a completely useless choice. What is supposed to happen (which MS Word does, clumsy as it is) is that I can set the main text to page 1 and everything follows from there. TOC's and indexes are now useful. Your suggestion works only because I have but one sub-doc that is to begin with page one. Suppose I now add a second sub-doc with the same styles (which is, of course, the reason for templates). Now what am I to expect. Say chapter I is 15 pages. Chapter II should start with page 17. You solution would start Chapter II with page 1 again -- NOT what is wanted. Trying to resolve this conundrum is what gave me an example of three blank pages. It ONLY works if the preceding front matter ends with an even number. It NEVER works right if the preceding front matter ends with an odd numbered page. And THAT's the problem.
This entering of blank pages automatically is Writer wanting to be too smart for users printing on a single side. I agree that it makes much sense in duplex printing, but in single page printing, the current implementation can leads to annoying blank pages being ejected and frustration for the user, who can't control these extra blank pages. It would be nice if this feature could be turned off for those wishing to.
Can you please express yourself a little bit more precise and *concise* (so, about 5 lines of facts...). When loading your document (src680m69), I see (in print preview mode) 1 page with text, 1 "Blank page all along your document. So, everything is fine for me. Hints to report: please describe like this: - "I expect page nb X to be numbered "y" " or "I want 1 blank page "there" and "there" " - "but I get "this" "
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