Issue 17457 - Find & Replace Help button shows Help for sub-dialog what has been visited before
Summary: Find & Replace Help button shows Help for sub-dialog what has been visited be...
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Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: ui (show other issues)
Version: OOo 1.1 RC2
Hardware: PC All
: P3 Minor (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Reported: 2003-07-27 13:09 UTC by mmelchior
Modified: 2013-10-10 06:22 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Issue Type: DEFECT
Latest Confirmation in: 4.0.1
Developer Difficulty: ---


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Description mmelchior 2003-07-27 13:09:01 UTC
New document, bring up 'Find & Replace' dialogue, click 'Attributes...' or
'Format...', cancel the new dialogue, click Help.  This does not give the
expected 'Find & Replace' help text, but the text for the Attributes or Format
dialogue. Only when there was some other activity in the 'Find & Replace'
dialogue the correct help text is presented.  Since the Attributes and Format
dialogues each have their own Help button, the above behaviour is undesired.
Comment 1 jack.warchold 2003-09-23 17:03:36 UTC
reassigned to jw
Comment 2 jack.warchold 2003-09-29 11:30:30 UTC
this is not bug this is a feature. 
if you call help the content of help will show the helpcontent of the 
dialog entry you selected. 
just click on "regular expression" in the find and replace dialog and 
call help. the help will open with the regular expression content. so 
if you leave the "Attributes"-dialog, the "Attributes"-button ist 
still selected and the help just calls the help of the function of 
this button.
Comment 3 jack.warchold 2003-09-29 11:30:51 UTC
invalid -> closed
Comment 4 mmelchior 2003-09-29 20:01:16 UTC
You call it a feature, I call it a mis-feature....!

If I click a Help button, I want help for the dialog that presented that
Help button.  I do not want Help for the dialog that is associated with
default button at that moment, I just want the Help for the current

Please let it behave like people expect, do not use overly clever things
to help people, I get annoyed by such behavoir.

Please reconcider.......!
Comment 5 jack.warchold 2003-10-13 12:33:03 UTC
changed issuetype to anhancement

reassigend to bh
Comment 6 ace_dent 2008-05-16 02:08:32 UTC Issue Tracker - Feedback Request.

The Issue you raised is currently 'Unconfirmed' pending review, but has not been
updated within the last 3 years. Please consider re-testing with one of the
latest versions of OOo, as the problem(s) may have already been addressed.
Either use the recent stable version:
or consider trying the new OOo 3 BETA (still in testing):
Please report back the outcome so this Issue may be Closed or Progressed as
necessary - otherwise it may be Resolved as Invalid in the future. You may also
wish to search for (and note) any duplicates of this Issue that may have
advanced further by checking the Issue Tracker:
Many thanks,
Cleaning-up and Closing old Issues as part of:
~ The Grand Bug Squash, pre v3 ~
Comment 7 bettina.haberer 2010-05-21 15:05:56 UTC
To grep the issues easier via "requirements" I put the issues currently lying on
my owner to the owner "requirements". 
Comment 8 jnaro 2013-02-21 01:43:02 UTC
I was able to replicate the issue on both XP & Windows 7 OS.  I've included further details in an effort to assist with the next steps.

Configuration Information 

OS: MS Windows 7 3.4.1 
OOO341m1 Build 9593


OS: MS XP Professional Version 2002 3.3 
OOO330m20 Build 9567

Steps to Reproduce 

1. Open a new Writer document (from Start > Programs or right-click > New >OpenDocument Text) 
2. Select Ctrl-F to open Find & Replace dialog window
3. Select "More Options" arrow and it provides more search options. 
4. Select "Attributes" button and an Attributes dialog window displays
5. Select "Cancel" button and the focus is back on the Find and Replace dialog window 
6. Select "Help" button 
7. The Attributes help text displays
The Reporter expectations - Find and Replace help text displays
8. Close help text and Find and Replace windows
9. Repeat steps 2-6 but select "Format" button in place of "Attributes" in step 4
10. The Text Format (Search) help text displays
The Reporter expectations - Find and Replace help text displays

Additional Tests Executed

1. Executed same steps as above but using the Edit>Find and Replace option from the toolbar rather than Ctrl-F with same results
2. Verified the Find and Replace help text displays correctly without selecting "More Options" drop down
3. Verified the Find and Replace help text displays correctly after selecting "More Options" drop down but not 
   selecting the Attributes or Format buttons
4. Individually tested the selection of each of the checkboxes under the "More Options" drop down (without selecting   Attributes or Format button first) to verify the correct help text displays.

My Findings 
• I find this to be expected behavior and not an issue or enhancement that needs to be made.  The help text that displays depends on what button or field is retaining the focus.  After selecting “More Options” and either selecting the Attributes or Format button and then cancelling out of that window, you can see the focus is still on the last button you clicked (you will see a dotted square around it).  In this case, even though you cancelled out of the Attribute or Format window, the focus is still on those buttons and that is the reason the Help text for these buttons display rather than the Find and Replace Help text.  

Observations/Differences I found between OO versions 3.3 & 3.4.1

• I noticed that on OO version 3.3, when you are on a particular field in the Find and Replace window and select Help button, you are directed to the exact location within the help text.  For example; clicking on help button after being on “Replace with” field will bring you directly to the help text for that field.  I found in OO version 3.4.1, the help text scroll bar is always at the very top of the Find and Replace help regardless of what field you are on. 

• I also found that on OO version 3.4.1, when the focus is on any of the checkboxes under “More Options” such as Backwards, Regular Expressions, etc., the Help text brings you to the Find and Replace Help window rather than the Help text for those items.  OO version 3.3 took me directly to the Help text for those areas.
Comment 9 Rainer Bielefeld 2013-10-10 06:22:34 UTC
(a) Reproducible with  "AOO 4.1.0-Dev – English  UI / German locale - 
   [AOO410m1(Build:9750)  -  Rev. 1525917 - 2013-09-25]" on German WIN7 Home
   Premium (64bit)", own separate user profile.
(b) Latest confirmation for AOO  4.1.0-dev, but because of incomplete LCo 
    selector (Bug 123063) no correct information can be left.
(c) This is a DEFECT and not an enhancement request, jack.warchold's arugments 
    are for a different case (for what they are correct) 
(d) I see the same after having visited sub dialog 'Format' 
(e) This is a bug report, because only the 'Find and Replace' dialog is affected,
    see (f), (g)
(f) this problem is not visible for 'Tools -> Spelling and grammar:
    * [Help] leads to "Spelling and Grammar"
    * After [Options] help leads to "Writing Aids"
    * After Options sub dialog has bee closed 'Spelling and Grammar' [Help]
      again leads to Help for "Spelling and Grammar" (as expected)
(g) also as expected for 
    Writer - Customize -> Toolbars, 
    Writer - Export to PDF -> Password
    May be others, I did not check systematically