Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Issue 18549
Sound and/or video effects disabled on RC3
Last modified: 2008-05-17 23:05:23 UTC
Under XP-Home, XP-Pro and RH9, RC3 Impress disables insertion of sounds and/or video
Perhaps this is not a critical bug against the code but rather against HELP and the docs. I see that by double-clicking on certain effect options that one can select sounds. This is not clear nor intuitive.
Retested RC3 on RH9, found sounds available but "apply" not. Therefore no sounds. Tried various combinations on a know good .ppt and no apply. Tried again on the same presentation as an .sxi with the same results, no apply. Re-tried under XP, favorites and others. Same as under rh9. Usually no apply button; however, the odd time it did show up but no sound.
grsingleton: Can you provide some more information, what you are trying to do? pleas give a step-by-step description of menus and dialogues you are using. Im not shure, if you like to insert sounds / videos by "insert - object" or try to define a sound for an effect. While the 1st seems to be broken for me too, the latter works.
1. Open an existing .ppt 2. Open Slide Show menu item 3. Select Effects 4. choose fade (say favourite/ from centre) 5. Select sound icon 6. Choose sound from list. 7. No sound on preview or show. Both XP and RH9 Did not try insert as it is not what I would do in PowerPoint or SO. Since you are here, I need evaluation of another possible bug with install. RC3 will not install without java. Ever heard of this? If yes please give me the issue # and if not I'll open a new issue.
Ok, exactly following your steps, will not work (I'll get no sound). But there is a button "assign" at the upper right in the effect's dialoque. If I push this, all is ok. Can you get it working? There are some favourites, where this button is not enabled .. but this seems to be another issue. To the java-issue: I find no relatet issue and actually I am able to install 1.1RC3 without Java (Win2k). Please file a new issue or ask at the user-lista
My complaint is the "assign" never becomes active. To me this is a breaker. About favorites, it seems that they are assigned sounds but in older versions one could override the default. If you can't assign, impress is useless, IMHO.
In my environment, "assign" is active in all relevant cases. It becomes inactive, if I try to assign a text effect to a non-text object. can you attach the presentation you are trying to change? If this does not help, I'm going to ask another volunteer at qa-list to confirm. But it was a good Idee, you ask at users-list, if someone has the same problem. (I cannot do this, because I only read the german user list).
Created attachment 8707 [details] Opportunity Seminar presentation
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it all works fine for me, so I cannot confirm. I'll ask at the qa-list for help. Pleas ask at user-list, if someone has the same problem. If this cannot be confirmed, I'm going to close with "works for me" within two weeks.
I think here are two things gettin mixed up. When you open a presentation, select nothing and open the Slideshow/effects menu there will be no option to assign an effect: because this dialog is for object effects (flying rectangles, text, etc.). For getting an effect on the complete slide just use the other dialog Slideshow/Slide transition. This will get an effect to the slide changing. Did I miss something or am I right? Hope this helps.
I not certain I understand. If I want to enable effects or change them for a presentation, it seems the logical place is under "Slide Show/Effects" When creating a presentation, that is another story and one that I am not addressing. In SO5.2, Powerpoint and ealier versions of OO.org, one could modify an existing presentation to tailor it for the particular audience. Under rc3, this is not possible as I have described. To me this is a stopper. So what to do, may I suggest that you explain to me exactly what you mean to terms of steps to take (privately might be good) to test. I will do this and update my finding in this issue quickly so as to assist in getting 1.1 ready for release.
It differs what effects you want to change: if you want to change slide effects (effects that take place when the slide is changed in the running presentation) you have to use Slideshow/Slide Transition to change the Slide Transition effect. If you want to change Object Effects (effects on single text or grafic objects on a slide) you have to select the object whose effect you want to change and use SlideShow/Effects. In your step by step description given earlier on you are using the effects dialog (this one is for changing object effects) but without having selected anything. So it is correct that you cannot apply your changes there. But this has been in the same way in older OO-versions, too.
Huh? You mean that when I go to Slide Show/effects I am attempting to change only one object within the frame? This is NOT clear. The options offered show the various slide transitions that one may use and not the transitions of an object within the slide. All I want to do is overrided favorites/no fade to favorites/fade to center and to change the sound. Unfortunately the apply button does not become enabled thus no change. Either it's a document/label bug or a coding bug and it affects impress' utility when trying to customize presentations. All work is in SLide mode which should select the slide being changed, Yes/no? In older versions slide view mode permitted changes to defaults. Why not OO.org?
Reassigned to Christian. Please have a look if you can give a better description of the difference between SlideEffect/ObjectEffect. It seems that I am not able to.
I look forward to addressing the problem.
IMHO, this is a usability / wording problem, not an defect. So we should change to enhancement and change the Summary or close with "invalid". BTW: OOo 1.0.3 shows exactly the same behaviour.
Perhaps. I can accept that the instructions are not up to standard. Can we still pursue this in some manner?
The slide transition effect is the effect of the slide. this effect act on the slide with all texts and objects which doesn't have an 'own' effect.You can assign the effect with 'Slide Show/Slide Transition'. After the Slide transition the objects and the text effects appears. You assign the effects with 'Slide Show/Effects'. There are buttons in the corresponding dialogs (Slide Transitio or Effects) to assign also a sound effect. If the help about this area is confusing please write me what is confusing and I send the issue to our documentation team.
I can't reproduce the bug and don't get an answer to my comment above. Therefore I close this issue.
Is it really up to me to correct the documentation and help? We all know that it is lacking. I still feel that being able to control sound insertion under ALL conditions is imperative. With 1.1.0Final the problem remains. This issue should NOT be closed on such a specious whim. THe comment required no answer because it is obvious. If you wish to maintain the state of OOo WRT sounds, please do so but also do the followup that jusifies your decision. In other words, you feel that insertions of sounds should remain the same and the docs do NOT reflect your decision fix the docs. Only when you have done a complete and thorough job should you close issues.
You are right our effect dialogs needs improvement. Hi Bettina Please have a look how we can improve our effect dialogs.
Close no one cares.
No one cares. Closing as Wontfix
The Issue you raised has been marked as 'Resolved' and not updated within the last 1 year+. I am therefore setting this issue to 'Verified' as the first step towards Closing it. If you feel this is incorrect, please re-open the issue and add any comments. Many thanks, Andrew Cleaning-up and Closing old Issues ~ The Grand Bug Squash, pre v3 ~ http://marketing.openoffice.org/3.0/announcementbeta.html
As per previous posting: Verified -> Closed. A Closed Issue is a Happy Issue (TM). Regards, Andrew