Issue 20103 - Sections with columns containing footnotes grow to page size
Summary: Sections with columns containing footnotes grow to page size
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: ui (show other issues)
Version: OOo 1.1 RC4
Hardware: PC All
: P3 Trivial with 4 votes (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
QA Contact:
Keywords: oooqa
: 88942 (view as issue list)
Depends on:
Reported: 2003-09-26 00:06 UTC by michaelis
Modified: 2013-08-07 14:38 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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Issue Type: DEFECT
Latest Confirmation in: ---
Developer Difficulty: ---

A sample document: Please change the # of cols to 1 and observe what happens (6.46 KB, application/octet-stream)
2003-09-29 19:54 UTC, michaelis
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Description michaelis 2003-09-26 00:06:07 UTC
In my eyes this is a bug, but if not, it is my desire that a section of text
with footnotes doesn't occupy a whole page. The behaviour of the writer now is
like that: 

Assume that a document created by Writer (OOo1.1rc4, Win98SE and SuSE 8.2)
consist of one page with a head line followed by a section with some lines of
text. After this section there are some more lines of text - some "free text".

Now a footnote with a few words is inserted in the text belonging to the
mentioned section. OpenOffice shows this footnote at the bottom of the page, as

In order to give a cool look to the document the section is devided in two
columns (by right-clicking within the navigator on the section and selecting
"edit..." in the context menue, then "options" in the appearing dialog).

This works, but unfortunately the section now occupies the whole page. After the
section follows the footnote. The text that was following the section before it
was devided in two columns now appears on a second page.

So there are two pages now, almost empty, one of them containing a footnote at
the bottom. One get the same result by first defining the section with its two
columns, then putting in the text and finally inserting the footnote in the text
belonging to the devided section.

I think this is a bug, because of two reasons:

1. All endnotes of all text, sections, frames etc. are collected without
problems an shown at the end of the whole document. In the same manner one
expect the footnotes of all text, sections, frames etc. belonging to one page to
be collected and to be shwon outsite of all sections and frames at the end of
the page - without care of the number of columns whithin any section on this
page. If not, see reason 2.

2. If a footnote is desired two appear _within_ the section it belongs to, then
the checkbox "Collect at end of text" can be marked. This checkbox is located in
the dialog that appears with "format/sections.../options...". This works fine,
and with this option activated the section doesn't occupy the whole page.
Comment 1 andreschnabel 2003-09-26 06:38:17 UTC
I can confirm this on 1.1RC4 windows.
At least I can say, that OOo beaves this way, but I have no knowledge
in typography, if this was the correct way.
Comment 2 jack.warchold 2003-09-29 11:53:47 UTC
reassigned to jw

hello michaelis, can you please attach the document?
Comment 3 michaelis 2003-09-29 19:54:21 UTC
Created attachment 9807 [details]
A sample document: Please change the # of cols to 1 and observe what happens
Comment 4 jack.warchold 2003-10-02 11:21:45 UTC
set target to office later
Comment 5 jack.warchold 2003-10-06 11:28:33 UTC
ok, i have to set this to enhancement. 
this is a standard in office applications. i tested this with two 
other offices with the same result. 
after talking to a developer i can tell you that this is a must bee 
technical issue to prevent more difficult errors.

set to enhancement, reassigned to bh
issue: sections with two or more columns should not expand to page 
Comment 6 samuelh 2005-09-14 20:44:37 UTC
True, this bug is also present in MS Word, but that's only an excuse. I use this
feature extensively, and am forced to migrate away from OOo until footnotes in
multicolumns are fixed. If LaTeX can do it, why can't OOo? :)

jw said on Mon Oct 6 03:28:33 -0700 2003, that this is needed to avoid technical
issues. This indicates a problem with the underlying formatting architecture
and/or algorithms that needs to be resolved.

I do take exception to this being classified as an "Enhancement." It should
remain classified as a "DEFECT" and assigned the "WONTFIX" value if nothing is
going to be done.
Comment 7 michael.ruess 2008-05-05 11:43:48 UTC
*** Issue 88942 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 8 troncoso 2008-10-22 16:16:30 UTC
I've just discovered this unexpected behaviour of OOo Writer and I'm puzzled
that it has attracted so little attention for five years. I believe that, if we
are to fulfil OOo's mission statement of creating the leading Office Suite, this
issue has to be address.
Comment 9 bettina.haberer 2010-05-21 16:13:25 UTC
Changed the owner to 'requirements'.
Comment 10 Rob Weir 2013-07-30 02:46:45 UTC
Reset assignee on issues not touched by assignee in more than 1000 days.