Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Issue 21051
Dots not displayed in certain MathType objects
Last modified: 2013-08-07 14:38:26 UTC
hi, My colleague who only use MS Office has sent me a scientific document containing many mathematic formulae. When I open the file with openoffice, I found that several symbols which should have a dot on top of it appear without the dot. I though at first that this was my colleague 's mistake, but when I talk to him he says that there _was_ the dot on his document opened with MS Word. I don't have Word so I can't check, but when I sent back to him the formula where the dot is missing _under openoffice_, which I copy from his original document and and save in .doc format, he also see no dot. So the dot was probably lost during the conversion from MS doc format to the internal format of openoffice. The document which shows this problem will be attached to this report The dot is missing in formula (5), (16), (17) and many other (but not in formula (1), for ex.). I am still using the version 1.1rc4 since I can't find a 1.1 version in French. If this error has been corrected in 1.1, please disregard.
Created attachment 10211 [details] MS Doc document in which the problem appears
Hi, Which symbols should have dots? Indeed they are missing so thus far the problem is confirmed in 1.1/Linux... confirming therefore Could you attach a screenshot of e.g. equations 16 and 17? Thanks - ASK
Addendum: some other characters are missing. At various places there is a formula [(Delta) (empty space)].
I am attaching a screen shot containing equations (16) and (17) of the attached document. The symbols (capital) phi and V in the right hand side of the equations have a dot over it under MS Word, but the dot is missing when imported into openoffice. Curiously, in some (rare) equations, such as equation (1), the dot is _not missing_. I don't have however the problem of some characters missing such as [(Delta) (empty space)].
Created attachment 10252 [details] screen shot of equations 16 and 17 in the attached MS Word document
Reassigned to MRU
Hm, I cannot reproduce the problem. I tried it with OO 1.1 on Windoze and Linux, but I correctly get the dots above the mentioned symbols. Wolfram, have you heard about certain situations where Metafiles have such glitches?
Maybe a StarSymbol <-> Opensymbol issue? I don't get the dots on equations 16 and after "Equation derreur de vitesse : Léquation théorique vérifiée par la vitesse est léquation (2) :" with OOo 1.1.0 on linux. .. The font in the equations is "Times New Roman" though...
Addendum: When checking [x] convert MathType to OOo Math in the Options, I get the dots (but not on the right hand-side but on the left) The conversions fails badly with binary operators that don't have the second "argument" (the document uses the "times"-operator (the "x") quite a lot and thus there is much manual work required to fix eg " size 12{ left [ω rSub { size 8{m} } times right ]} " to " size 12{ left [ω rSub { size 8{m} } times {} right ]} " (there should be a small omega before rSub -just in case IssueZilla cannot handle this) unfortunately the missing {} distorts the formula badly so you cannot really tell what it should look like before fixing the errors (klick on the questionmark to jump to the position in the command-window, insert the {},...}
No problems, sorry. Sounds like a problem with the installed fonts. Tested it on Win and Linux, no problems. All dots where they should be.
(for the conversion/missing {} see also issue 21484 ) @wolfram: Do you really have a "plain" OOo installation without StarSymbol? I'm using Mandrake Linux 9.0 (with additional ms-fonts from corefonts.sf.net = "real" Times New Roman available) running gnome 2.4 (selfcompiled) and don't get the dots in the mentioned formulas.
The problem appears indeed font related. I have actually added to my openoffice the MS font package freely found on the MS site (but it have been withdrawn now). If I delete these fonts, many of the math. symbols disspear (i.e. replaced by blanks), including those with the missing dot. Note that my openoffice comes with only the Vera fonts which was not even included in the Debian version of openoffice. However, if I copy and paste a portion of the document under openoffice and reexport it in MS word format and sent it back to my correspondent who has Word, then symbol with missing dot remain missing (under Word) which in the original version they have dot Thus something has changed by the simple act of copy and paste, which shoild not be connect to the missing fonts for displaying the document.
MRU->SJ: The problem is only reproducable on Unix WITHOUT having MathType conversion activated. in some formula objects (e.g. see page 7, Formula (16) and following). There should be shown dots above some of the Greek letters. When clipping down the document to the offending 5 or 6 objects, the formulas are displayed correctly in their metafiles. Maybe a problem with the memory on Unix systems?
accepted.