Issue 25278 - print default suggestions
Summary: print default suggestions
Alias: None
Product: Calc
Classification: Application
Component: ui (show other issues)
Version: OOo 1.1
Hardware: PC Windows XP
: P3 Trivial with 7 votes (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: oc
QA Contact: issues@sc
: 29807 45046 (view as issue list)
Depends on:
Reported: 2004-02-09 19:14 UTC by pschatz100
Modified: 2013-08-07 15:14 UTC (History)
7 users (show)

See Also:
Issue Type: PATCH
Latest Confirmation in: ---
Developer Difficulty: ---

officecfg calc tuning (713 bytes, patch)
2007-04-25 23:19 UTC, rail_ooo
no flags Details | Diff

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Description pschatz100 2004-02-09 19:14:18 UTC
I think it would be better to have the software set the following Print default
values upon installation:

1)  Suppress output of empty pages
2)  Do not print grid

After several people in my company installed the software for the first time, we
had a crisis because many print jobs queued up with hundreds of blank pages of
output.  It was thought this was a serious flaw in the application and the
software was removed.  I realize the settings can be changed after installation,
(and I have done so in my copy), but the damage has already been done.  The
users and administrators are not willing to use the software.  

Also, this behavior would be more in line with default Excel behavior.
Comment 1 frank 2004-02-10 08:40:46 UTC
Hi Bettina,

one for you.

Comment 2 rail_ooo 2007-04-25 23:18:40 UTC
Attached is officecfg schema patch which toggles default behavour of Calc
printing  preferences for "Print empty pages" and "Print all sheets". Please review.
Comment 3 rail_ooo 2007-04-25 23:19:55 UTC
Created attachment 44692 [details]
officecfg calc tuning
Comment 4 frank 2007-04-26 08:40:46 UTC
Hi Niklas,

as this is a Patch now, please have a look at it.

Comment 5 kpalagin 2007-05-08 09:28:54 UTC
Any progress?
Comment 6 niklas.nebel 2007-06-08 16:19:03 UTC
The patch is rather trivial, but doesn't solve the problem of agreement whether
we *want* to change the defaults. So, back to Bettina.
Comment 7 kpalagin 2007-06-08 20:25:04 UTC
Betina owned the issue for more than 3 years, I do not think we will ever get 
a decision.
Why don't you be honest to people and set the issue as WouldNotFix, so that we 
do not waste any more effort on this one?
Comment 8 pschatz100 2007-06-08 20:36:56 UTC
Sorry to hear this decision.  And you wonder why more companies don't use
Comment 9 cno 2007-06-11 09:29:37 UTC
I support the idea that default printing should do the current workbook only.
Comment 10 frank.loehmann 2007-06-11 10:35:09 UTC
I have just talked to a large customer were this issue was named a pet peeve. I
would support that change, because the already present printing option is
unknown to most users. So lets change the default and integrate the option
"Print only selected sheets" into the Print dialog.
Comment 11 frank.loehmann 2007-06-12 08:51:37 UTC
I take this issue and will start a discussion with the Calc dev team next week
(June 18-22). I will post the result and integration schedule after that meeting.
Comment 12 frank.loehmann 2007-06-12 08:52:41 UTC
Set new target.
Comment 13 frank.loehmann 2007-06-12 09:12:42 UTC
Current thaughts:

- integrate options for
   - print selected tables only
   - and supress empty pages
  into Print dialog and make it the new defaults
- think about making the page Preview callable from Print dialog
- think about ignoring print ranges by option (also an issue with unment print
ranges, also an issue from real customers)

Open issues: Print dialog is currently the same for all apps
Comment 14 frank.loehmann 2007-06-14 15:46:41 UTC
FL->TBE: Please change the current defaults as discussed in the meeting today:
Change default to checked for the following printing options:
  - Suppress output of empty pages
  - Print only selected sheets

Furthermore the Calc Page Preview will also print only the selected table(s), if
this option is checked (even if the Page Preview itself always shows the
complete spreadsheet).
Comment 15 frank.loehmann 2007-06-14 17:35:06 UTC
*** Issue 29807 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 16 thomas.benisch 2007-06-18 13:40:54 UTC
Comment 17 thomas.benisch 2007-06-18 13:41:43 UTC
fixed on CWS dr55

I changed the default values for the following printing options:
- Print only selected sheets (property AllSheets)
- Suppress output of empty pages (property EmptyPages)

In addition, if the 'Print only selected sheets' option is checked,
the Calc page preview will only print the displayed sheet.

The following files are affected:



Comment 18 thomas.benisch 2007-07-02 09:09:21 UTC
TBE->OC: Please verify in CWS dr55.
Comment 20 bobharvey 2007-07-26 11:39:06 UTC
How does this work relate to issue 59697 and 59696 ?

Does this change also apply to PDF export?
Comment 21 oc 2007-08-07 13:40:52 UTC
closed because fix available in src680_m225 (OOo 2.3)
Comment 22 niklas.nebel 2009-05-20 10:24:47 UTC
*** Issue 45046 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***