Issue 30114 - User hyphens (CTRL-minus) not working
Summary: User hyphens (CTRL-minus) not working
Alias: None
Product: Draw
Classification: Application
Component: ui (show other issues)
Version: OOo 1.1.2
Hardware: PC Windows 2000
: P3 Trivial with 1 vote (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Keywords: oooqa
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Reported: 2004-06-11 22:36 UTC by rglaschick
Modified: 2013-02-07 22:40 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Description rglaschick 2004-06-11 22:36:55 UTC
Entering a user hyphen via CTRL-minus in a text box is not possible. 
When a text with soft hypens is copied from a text document, the soft hyphen is
replaced by a dash.
Comment 1 christian.guenther 2004-06-18 15:10:52 UTC
CGU: textengine is for me.
Comment 2 lc3 2004-06-24 01:42:10 UTC
Duplicated on Win XP Pro 2002 SP1, OOo 1.1.2
Duplicated on Win XP Pro 2002 SP1, OOo 2.0_680

I dont expect this will be fixed if text boxes are simply not designed to hold a
soft hyphen, as they would not hold other formatted text. a soft hyphen doesn't
seem to be like any other character. Sounds like something that will be marked

I'm confirming it though, to let someone more important decide.
Comment 3 rglaschick 2004-06-29 09:35:27 UTC
Just to be sure, it is called 'custom hyphens' in the help.
As automatic hyphenation (and a lot of other formatting) is supported in text
boxes, why not custom hyphens? Automatic hyphenation is very difficult and buggy
in German; why not give full control first, i.e. custom hyphens, and then
provide  automatic hyphenation as an add-on?
In particular, word breaks are made at minus signs in words. So to control line
breaks, I currently have to insert minus signs, and scan the text for these
whenever I change the size of the box. It's boring. (well, many MS-Word users do
so ...).
Comment 4 christian.guenther 2004-06-29 12:20:40 UTC
I think this is nit a bug but an enhancement.
Please have a look.
Comment 5 graaf 2004-09-01 23:02:16 UTC
'Soft hyphen' is more widely used than 'custom hyphen'. Some programs use more
exotic names as 'Discretionary hyphen' (Macromedia Freehand) or 'hyphenation
hint' (rare). I think 'soft hyphen' is the most unambiguous and should be
preferred over 'custom hyphen' or any other alternative.

I agree with cgu - this is an enhancement, but quite important one.

<quote from>
When flowing text, it is sometimes preferable to break a word in half so that it
continues on another line rather than moving the entire word to the next line.
However, doing so requires some knowledge of the conventions of language, making
the writing of a computer programs capable of doing so automatically and
accurately difficult. To avoid this problem, Unicode encodes a soft hyphen
character, U+00AD: when flowing text, a system may consider the soft hyphen to
be a point at which a word may be broken, and display a hyphen at the end of the
broken line; otherwise, the hyphen is not displayed. In HTML, the soft hyphen is
encoded as the character entity “&shy;”.
Comment 6 bettina.haberer 2010-05-21 14:52:28 UTC
To grep the issues easier via "requirements" I put the issues currently lying on
my owner to the owner "requirements".