Issue 30534 - moving table caption eliminates all references to the table
Summary: moving table caption eliminates all references to the table
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: ui (show other issues)
Version: OOo 1.1.2
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial with 1 vote (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
QA Contact:
: 116414 (view as issue list)
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Reported: 2004-06-22 00:02 UTC by jenpc
Modified: 2013-08-07 14:38 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Document demonstrates the problem when dragging table captions. (6.44 KB, application/vnd.sun.xml.writer)
2004-06-22 00:04 UTC, jenpc
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Description jenpc 2004-06-22 00:02:01 UTC
If, after a table caption is inserted, it is moved (via drag and drop) from 
below the table to above, or vice versa, any references to the table are lost 
(the gray space where the reference was still refers to a table, but which 
table is indeterminate).

Since it's possible to insert a caption either above or below a table, and to 
my knowledge there is no function for changing the location of a table caption 
once it has been inserted, it would be extremely helpful if it were possible to 
manually move (drag) a table caption without it losing its "identity".

Another user and I have used the sample file (which I will attach) to confirm 
this for both Windows and Linux and for OOo 1.1.1 and OOo 1.1.2.  The sample 
file contains additional text describing the behavior observed.

It appears (at least in this sample file) that using "cut & paste" instead 
of "drag & drop" does not induce the same problematic behavior in references to 

If, instead of permitting a table caption to be manually moved after insertion, 
an option were provided for relocating a table caption (from above to below, 
and vice versa), such a solution would be more than satisfactory.
Comment 1 jenpc 2004-06-22 00:04:26 UTC
Created attachment 16064 [details]
Document demonstrates the problem when dragging table captions.
Comment 2 eric.savary 2004-06-22 01:08:03 UTC
General problem of caption which cannot be edited afterwards.
In the case of table caption, it is possible to edit the refererence and reset 
the reference from "2" to "Table 2".
Comment 3 ftack 2004-06-22 20:46:33 UTC
This issue was filed as an enhancement. However, I feel that this is a prime
example of non intended behaviour (dragging renders a cross refernce invalid)
and I stronly feel this issue should be set as a "Defect".
Comment 4 bettina.haberer 2010-05-21 14:40:30 UTC
To grep the issues easier via "requirements" I put the issues currently lying on
my owner to the owner "requirements". 
Comment 5 eric.savary 2011-01-11 23:31:04 UTC
*** Issue 116414 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 6 skelem 2011-02-10 00:08:45 UTC
It's an enhancement to fix a defect that was reported six and a half years ago!
This "enhancement" is a basic feature that has been in the structured document
editor, FrameMaker, in the 1980's!

When a very long table splits across pages, the current system of having a
separate, unrelated paragraph type for the caption following the table shows up
on the last page of the table.  When the table spans 10 pages, you don't have a
caption until you thumb through all those pages!

Please don't tell me that the answer is to break up the table.  I could break up
the table and then insert captions after every single sub-table, but when I add
or delete rows from the table, I have to re-split the table.  Re-splitting a
table is tedious and error-prone, and turns on change-bars for splits that
really shouldn't show up as changes.