Issue 35576 - Change 'Create' button to 'Open' button during 'Open existing presentation'
Summary: Change 'Create' button to 'Open' button during 'Open existing presentation'
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Alias: None
Product: Impress
Classification: Application
Component: ui (show other issues)
Version: OOo 1.0.3
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial with 4 votes (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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: 44121 (view as issue list)
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Reported: 2004-10-15 02:44 UTC by zali
Modified: 2013-02-07 22:41 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT
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Description zali 2004-10-15 02:44:47 UTC
Step to produce:
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Create new Presentation.
File -> New -> Presentation
'AutoPilot Presentation' box will appear with 3 type of actions:
1) Empty Presentation
2) From Template
3) Open existing presentation

I suggest to change 'Create' button to 'Open' button.
It's more clear to user.
Comment 1 zali 2004-10-15 03:02:28 UTC
I meant, change 'Create' button to 'Open' button when user select the 3rd option
('Open existing presentation')
Comment 2 wolframgarten 2004-10-15 07:52:19 UTC
Reassigned to Bettina.
Comment 3 tsager 2005-11-24 09:50:22 UTC
Still present in 2.0.
Duplicate issue 44121.
Comment 4 lars 2005-11-25 18:13:09 UTC
*** Issue 44121 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 5 kohsuke 2006-11-06 17:50:14 UTC
+1. When a problem like this is present, it makes one wonder about the quality
of OpenOffice.
Comment 6 skelem 2007-06-25 17:37:09 UTC
This problem is still present in 2.2!
It's not obvious what to do when opening an existing presentation.
The document I want to open is listed. After experimenting, I found something
that works, but none of the options are at all obvious. I found it quite frustrating

The options presented are:
  Open, which allows one to navigate the file system to find the document that's
already listed.
  Selecting the document.  This grays out the "obvious choice", the Next button.
I didn't try Create, because I don't want to create a new presentation.  I want
to open an existing one.
Through experimentation I found that double-clicking the document shown in the
Presentation Wizard opens up the existing document.

I can't imagine giving those choices to anyone who's not already sold on Open
Office, e.g., my kids' school, my kids, my wife.

Although this "enhancement" doesn't cause the program to stop working, it does
keep the program from being run by people who have the choice of using other
formatting software.
Comment 7 flowblok 2008-08-14 08:49:07 UTC
And still present in 3.0.

I was surprised when I read the comments for this issue, I thought that maybe
that had changed the dialog, and so it hadn't been in real usage yet.
Unfortunately, it would seem that this either hasn't been noticed by a large
number of users, or the developers think it's too hard to do. I'm having trouble
believing either of these options.

Can a developer please take this on and fix this?!
Comment 8 achohan2008 2009-09-13 03:27:10 UTC
(Anirudh Chohan, 12/09/2009)
Issue 35525
CONCLUSIONS: 
1) WHY I THINK THIS ENHANCEMENT SHOULD BE PRESENT:
•	Many softwares listed in the test have all three functionalities; a few 
have only two. However, the last four softwares—JCREATOR, VISUAL STUDIO, MS 
WORD, AND MS EXCEL, NOT TO MENTION MS POWERPOINT—include this functionality. 
This indicates that these softwares, of which JCreator and Visual Studio are 
used for development and MS Word and MS Excel are used by professionals in the 
workplace, implement the “CHE” functionality.
•	Most professionals can then be considered as being familiar with “CHE”. 
Such professionals may not realise at first what to do with Impress. Eventually 
they may figure out this problem. However, after this experience their 
confidence in the product from the point of view of familiarity will go down: 
they will be wary of readily using features that they used due to familiarity 
with Microsoft, as they are less confident now that the product is as similar in 
functionality; this could lead them to experiment more and spend precious time 
trying to discover shortcut keys and combinations in order to see whether the 
rules that applied to Microsoft products apply in the case of Impress. SINCE 
MANY COMPANIES USE OFFICE TOOLS SUPPLIED MY MICROSOFT, WE CAN EXPECT 
PROFESSIONALS TO BE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE PRODUCTS. IN MY VIEW THIS REQUEST FOR 
ENHANCEMENT COULD BE VIEWED AS A USABILITY BUG.  
•	If we don’t take this usability issue and similar ones that people come 
across, we may come up with a product that is useful but which is viewed by 
users as an oddball as far as usability is concerned and that could be a barrier 
to its popularity among professionals.
2) Finally, the originator of Issue35525 said that in a textbox the cursor 
should go to the home of the textbox. I found that this worked in Impress and it 
did so in a manner similar to MS PowerPoint. The cursor moved to the beginning 
of the text in a text box when “Ctrl+Home” was pressed and to its end when 
“Ctrl+End” was pressed.



CONFIGURATION:
 Version :                         OpenOffice.org 3.1.1  OOO310m19(Build:9420)
OS :                                   Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 
Version 6.0 (Build 6001: Service Pack 1) 
Platform :                        PC

STEPS FOLLOWED TO TEST:
1.  Open the. ppt or .odp file in Impress.
2. Press “Ctrl+Home” and “Ctrl+End”; “Home” and “End”; and “shift+end” and 
“shift+home”.
3. Note whether the “slides” window goes up or down depending on whether, for 
example, the “ctrl+home” is pressed or “ctrl+end” is pressed. Try this for all 
pairs of combinations given and note the results each time. The use of “Home” 
key alone or in combination with “shift” or “Ctrl” is supposed to take one to 
the top of the “slides” window and to the first slide; the case is the opposite 
for “End” and its combinations with “shift” and “Ctrl”.
4.  Press “Ctrl+Home” after having brought focus to a text box area of a slide 
and check whether the cursor moves to the home of the textbox area when the 
“Ctrl+Home” combination is pressed. 

To get a better idea of how widely the combinations listed in step 2 are used, I 
tested them on various softwares listed below. For the sake of ease I use the 
following list of abbreviations:
CHE: “Ctrl” used with “home” and “End” takes one to the first or last slide
SHE: “Shift” used with “home” and “End” takes one to the first or last slide
HE: “Home” and “End”  takes one to the first or last slide
The softwares,  or the operating system section” My computer”,  below are listed 
with the appropriate abbreviations that indicate that the particular 
functionality denoted by the abbreviation works:
POWER POINT 2007: HE, SHE, CHE
GOOGLE CHROME 2.0.172.43: HE,SHE, CHE
WinDjView 1.0.3: HE, SHE, CHE
MICROSOFT HTML HELP EXECUTABLE:  1. Text window :HE, SHE, CHE
                                                                      2. 
“Contents” window: HE, SHE
My Computer (browse folders till you get a folder where the scrolling bar is 
present): HE, CHE
MOZILLA FIREFOX 3.5.2: HE, CHE
JCREATOR VERSION 4.50.010: CHE
MICROSOFT VISUAL STUDIO 2008: CHE
MICROSOFT OFFICE WORD 2007: CHE
MICROSOFT EXCEL: CHE
 
Comment 9 dcb0 2009-10-08 10:32:50 UTC
If one looks for "Presentation Wizard" in the issue tracker, it is clear that
many people have reported that they find it difficult to use this dialog. Not
all of the issues state the same problem exactly, but it is certain that there
are problems with this dialog from a usability point of view.

Changing the text from "Create" to "Open" when the 3 option "Open existing
Presentation" is selected would help to clarify to the User that clicking that
button will Open the selected presentation. "Create" is simply wrong in this
case, the software doesn't "Create" the existing presentation it opens it.

Detailed recommendation:
1. Whenever the option "Open existing presentation" is selected the text on the
"Create" button is changed to "Open"
2. Should another option be selected. The text on the button should change back
to "Create".
3. If no Presentation from the list is selected the "Open" button should be
greyed out and do nothing when clicked.
4. When there is an existing presentation selected the "Open" button should be
made active. 

I believe that making these changes will be a good step towards improving the
usability of this dialog. 

Comment 10 bettina.haberer 2010-05-21 14:58:26 UTC
To grep the issues easier via "requirements" I put the issues currently lying on
my owner to the owner "requirements".