Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Issue 37623
'hide gridlines' : inconsistent naming in menu bar and context menu
Last modified: 2013-08-07 14:41:36 UTC
- open a writer document and insert a table - when the cursor is in the table open the table menu (main menu) => you can find the item 'Hide Gridlines' - open the context menu => you can find the item 'Table Limits' The problem is, that both items show the same status for the convers situation. => when 'Hide Gridlines' is activated, then 'Table Limits' are activated too My proposal is, that both have the same naming. If you think, we have to have both namings, then the functionality of 'Table Limits' (in context menu) has to be changed correctly. If you have the final naming or a final decision, please send the task to OS.
Liz->CJ: Can you tell me which term better fits the functionality? Or do we have to change the functionality?
CJ -> EM. We should align this to "Hide Gridlines" The following areas have to be changed: - context menu - Tools / Options / StarOffice / Appearance/ "Table Boundaries" Please inform the doku about the alignment
In progress: compare Table - "Gitternetzlinien ausblenden" (Hide Gridlines), then open context menu of a table and see "Tabellenbegrenzung" (Table Limits). Both of these can be turned on and off via check mark in front of them. (The main menu item is the new one: check usage of "gridlines" anywhere else in product)
"Gridlines" has not been used in SO/OOo before, whereas table boundaries and table limits were used, but were possibly synonyms for the same functionality. Therefore I agree that there is a problem either way. Terminology Issues to consider: We also have "grid" as in "snap to grid" which has nothing to do with the table boundaries. So adding another use of "Grid" in combination with "gridlines" is perhaps confusing for users and difficult for l10n. Regarding the definition of Gridlines, I think of lines on grid paper (aka math paper). e.g. MS Office uses gridlines inconsistently: View -Gridlines shows "grid paper" lines, which is different than the actual table boundaries seen under Table - Hide Gridlines. Conclusion: I do not think we should use "gridlines". The question remains between "Table limits" and "table boundaries", in which case, I choose "table boundaries" because it corresponds to "text boundaries" and "Object boundaries" which we also have and cannot be misunderstood ("limits" on the other hand is a noun as well as a verb and therefore possibly a problem in l10n). Liz->OS: Please make the corrections as follows...careful German and English changes are different! context menu of table: EN_us Table Limits --> Table Boundaries German remains as is! Table menu: EN_us Hide Gridlines --> Table Boundaries German Gitternetzlinien ausblenden --> Tabellenumrandungen Under Tools - Option - OOo/SO - Appearance German only Tabellenumrandungen --> Tabellenbegrenzungen The text no longer has the verb "Hide" which is then also consistent to OOo/SO style, see View menu with many similar entries with check marks.
Liz->OS: sorry, I made an error in German (it is late at night): please use these strings: context menu of table: EN_us Table Limits --> Table Boundaries German remains as is! Table menu: EN_us Hide Gridlines --> Table Boundaries German Gitternetzlinien ausblenden --> Tabellenbegrenzungen Under Tools - Option - OOo/SO - Appearance German only Tabellenumrandungen --> Tabellenbegrenzungen
*** Issue 41157 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
If it's not fixed in time for OOo2.0, it should be fixed for Ooo2.0.1.
Translation tasks cannot be fixed so easy in a product update. Therefor it should be fixed in the timeframe before OOo 2.0 final. I retarget the task back to OOo 2.0.
FME: I'll take over.
German string in context menu should also be "Tabellenbegrenzungen" Fixed in cws tablestrings: /cvs/sw/sw/source/ui/app/mn.src,v <-- mn.src new revision: 1.38.170.1; previous revision: 1.38 /cvs/graphics/svx/source/options/optcolor.src,v <-- optcolor.src new revision: 1.36.508.1; previous revision: 1.36/cvs/util/officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI/WriterCommands.xcu,v <-- WriterCommands.xcu new revision: 1.15.30.1; previous revision: 1.15 /cvs/sw/sw/source/ui/app/apphdl.cxx,v <-- apphdl.cxx new revision: 1.49.76.1; previous revision: 1.49
English help files changed: text\shared\optionen\01040200.xhp and text\swriter\main0110.xhp
Ready for QA. re-open issue and try to reassign to es@openoffice.org
try to reassign to es@openoffice.org
try to reset resolution to FIXED
verified in cws_tablestrings
Ok in src680m80