Issue 3790 - RTF: Import Word 97-2000 RTF for Drawing Objects (Shapes)
Summary: RTF: Import Word 97-2000 RTF for Drawing Objects (Shapes)
Status: CONFIRMED
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: code (show other issues)
Version: 641
Hardware: PC All
: P3 Trivial with 29 votes (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
QA Contact:
URL: http://www.univ.mecd.es/convocatorias...
Keywords: ms_interoperability, oooqa
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Blocks: 90135
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Reported: 2002-04-02 04:08 UTC by Unknown
Modified: 2017-05-20 10:45 UTC (History)
21 users (show)

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Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT
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Attachments
Original word document . (406.40 KB, application/msword)
2002-04-02 04:09 UTC, Unknown
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Screenshot of the document under Microsoft Word (26.22 KB, image/png)
2002-04-02 04:12 UTC, Unknown
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rtf that cannot be opened with writer. It is a simple form with lines and fields. (77.80 KB, text/rtf)
2004-06-02 15:24 UTC, sergeantmacman
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Description Unknown 2002-04-02 04:08:18 UTC
When I import the document above, the format is substantially different than
the original. The first paragraph should be aligned with the first box. It takes
more than one page when it should take only one.
Comment 1 Unknown 2002-04-02 04:09:34 UTC
Created attachment 1300 [details]
Original word document .
Comment 2 Unknown 2002-04-02 04:12:31 UTC
Created attachment 1301 [details]
Screenshot of the document under Microsoft Word
Comment 3 Unknown 2002-04-02 04:30:12 UTC
Another issue: the form elements of Word are not translated to form
elments of Openoffice.org. Instead, user-defined fields appear in
the document.
Comment 4 stefan.baltzer 2002-04-02 13:08:13 UTC
Reassigned to Michael.
Comment 5 michael.ruess 2002-05-16 16:16:30 UTC
The attached document is nor Word-format, it is RTF. So there
textboxes from MS drawing tools in the document, they are fully
ignored on import, because import of drawings from RTF is not
implemented at all (and will not be in the future; too high effort).
MRU->CMC: After import, the graphic in the header misses completely.
Is this fixible in the RTF filter?
Comment 6 caolanm 2002-05-17 13:44:19 UTC
Hmm! Seem to have quite serious issues importing any graphics
generated in word at all.

Comment 7 caolanm 2002-05-20 14:43:36 UTC
Yes, we simply don't have implement importing this type of graphic in
our rtf handling.
Comment 8 caolanm 2002-05-31 12:39:35 UTC
Unfortunately this isn't going to get implemented in a hurry.
Comment 9 caolanm 2002-07-18 10:51:08 UTC
*** Issue 4130 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 10 prgmgr 2002-10-01 04:43:18 UTC
*** Issue 6935 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 11 prgmgr 2002-10-21 00:19:50 UTC
*** Issue 6865 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 12 caolanm 2002-11-22 09:28:00 UTC
*** Issue 9037 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 13 t8m 2003-03-27 14:55:35 UTC
Any progress on this subject? Would it be possible to reconsider the
implementation now?
Comment 14 mfedyk 2003-04-17 23:20:08 UTC
Issue 10379, Issue 11610, and Issue 12414 are all duplicates of this bug.

I have a company where our DTP department is standardized on RTF, and
embedded images are almost a requirement (We can't lose the image
after saving like OOo 1.0.3 does now).  Once this is implemented, I
can switch   us over to OOo.

I can't contribute code right now, sorry.  What can I do to help get
this fixed?
Comment 15 mfedyk 2003-04-17 23:33:01 UTC
*** Issue 11610 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 16 caolanm 2003-04-22 09:30:46 UTC
Sadly the only thing that can affect this is an implementation for
such graphic element import. Hopefully we can get something for OOo
2.0 in this area.
Comment 17 michael.ruess 2003-05-13 15:49:09 UTC
*** Issue 12485 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 18 prgmgr 2003-06-17 05:12:57 UTC
*** Issue 12414 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 19 prgmgr 2003-06-17 05:18:40 UTC
*** Issue 11610 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 20 prgmgr 2003-06-17 05:19:03 UTC
*** Issue 11610 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 21 dankegel 2003-07-10 05:29:03 UTC
*** Issue 8487 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 22 caolanm 2003-09-25 12:45:47 UTC
*** Issue 14627 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 23 caolanm 2003-11-04 14:33:26 UTC
*** Issue 21711 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 24 caolanm 2004-03-03 13:43:26 UTC
*** Issue 21748 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 25 caolanm 2004-03-04 15:10:23 UTC
reopen to reassign
Comment 26 caolanm 2004-03-04 15:12:04 UTC
cmc->mmaher: Longstanding requirement to property implement drawing support for
rtf. As you know the subset of this for proper import and export of (at least)
inline graphics is implemented (thats for you hub), which will please at lot of
people, but the drawings are still not implemented
Comment 27 sergeantmacman 2004-06-02 15:24:16 UTC
Created attachment 15634 [details]
rtf that cannot be opened with writer.   It is a simple form with lines and fields.
Comment 28 sergeantmacman 2004-06-02 15:26:01 UTC
I added a form that I believe matches this issue.  It cannot be opened in my
current version of OOo.  ver 1.1.1
Comment 29 michael.ruess 2004-07-15 10:13:08 UTC
*** Issue 30814 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 30 andreas.martens 2004-07-30 10:50:37 UTC
Because of a shortage of resources we have to retarget this issue to OOo later.
Comment 31 Martin Hollmichel 2004-08-09 14:02:32 UTC
according to http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=releases&msgNo=7690
this issue will be set to OOoLater
Comment 32 michael.ruess 2004-11-12 08:52:06 UTC
*** Issue 37030 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 33 Rainer Bielefeld 2004-11-12 10:58:23 UTC
Yes everything here looks very similar to the effects reported in issue 37030.
Even the funny looing screenshot is similar for content of "dss_face_sheet.rtf"
copied into a writer document.

OS --> NEW, bedause issue 37030 was a WIN-issue.

By the way, I checked with 2.0 (1.9.m56) English version WIN XP:
[680m56(Build8814)] and had to learn that that version crashes if I try to copy
(<cntrl-c> <cntrl-c> ) the content of "dss_face_sheet.rtf" from WORD2000 to OOo

Rainer

Comment 34 andreas.martens 2004-12-01 16:04:25 UTC
ama -> flr: Please have a look.
Comment 35 michael.ruess 2004-12-27 08:03:35 UTC
*** Issue 39539 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 36 michael.ruess 2005-01-05 13:19:33 UTC
*** Issue 39949 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 37 michael.ruess 2005-02-15 15:39:53 UTC
*** Issue 42776 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 38 michael.ruess 2005-05-19 09:08:42 UTC
*** Issue 49471 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 39 michael.ruess 2005-05-26 15:20:17 UTC
*** Issue 41238 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 40 michael.ruess 2005-07-06 07:33:46 UTC
*** Issue 51607 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 41 michael.ruess 2005-10-05 07:19:27 UTC
*** Issue 55476 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 42 michael.ruess 2005-10-05 20:39:16 UTC
*** Issue 55241 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 43 michael.ruess 2005-10-17 10:18:23 UTC
*** Issue 56011 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 44 michael.ruess 2006-02-23 08:54:39 UTC
*** Issue 62452 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 45 michael.ruess 2006-03-13 08:56:28 UTC
*** Issue 63023 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 46 michael.ruess 2006-03-16 06:57:27 UTC
*** Issue 63242 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 47 michael.ruess 2006-03-17 12:28:32 UTC
*** Issue 63302 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 48 michael.ruess 2006-03-20 09:23:57 UTC
*** Issue 63352 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 49 michael.ruess 2006-04-24 14:39:43 UTC
*** Issue 64666 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 50 peteramjuspi 2006-04-25 09:09:25 UTC
I think it is a pitty that shapes in RTF documents won't be realized.
It is a reason that we switched back to MS Word in one department of
our company. A special program is using RTF output with a company letter 
form which contains shapes (Logo). So the output is not formatted in a
proper way.
Comment 51 michael.ruess 2006-06-07 12:03:33 UTC
*** Issue 66081 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 52 michael.ruess 2006-08-02 15:02:27 UTC
*** Issue 68061 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 53 lohmaier 2006-08-02 15:10:59 UTC
Workaround: open in WordViewer, select all, copy and paste into OOo...
Comment 54 Mathias_Bauer 2006-08-30 15:15:21 UTC
reassigning to hbrinkm
Comment 55 utomo99 2006-10-31 10:55:06 UTC
To hbrinkm:
This Issue already more than 4 years old and have many duplicates. 
Please consider to target this for next OOo 2.2 If possible. 

Thanks

Comment 56 lohmaier 2006-11-28 13:38:43 UTC
*** Issue 71949 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 57 Mathias_Bauer 2006-12-08 10:44:07 UTC
Our goal is to bring the RTF import to the same quality as the binary Word
import. If we are not completely mistaken we should be able to provide this with
our new filter project.
Comment 58 michael.ruess 2007-03-13 09:40:29 UTC
*** Issue 75333 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 59 michael.ruess 2007-07-18 13:17:26 UTC
*** Issue 79716 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 60 drichard 2007-07-18 14:37:57 UTC
I just used a vote on this issue.  I normally can find a workaround for our
users for the various things they need to do in their jobs.  But when files
won't open or import, we are kind of dead in the water.  One hates to tell users
that you have to keep a copy of Word around for importing RTF.
Comment 61 kpalagin 2007-08-07 10:31:50 UTC
Dear developers,
judging by the number of dupes (approx 25) it looks to be in high demand.
Any chance to resolve this issue in 2.4?

Thanks a lot for your attention.
WBR,
K. Palagin.
Comment 62 michael.ruess 2007-10-09 10:44:22 UTC
*** Issue 82417 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 63 michael.ruess 2007-10-09 11:14:26 UTC
*** Issue 82416 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 64 kpalagin 2008-03-15 18:23:55 UTC
hbrinkm,
are we on track for 3.0 with this issue?

Thanks.
Comment 65 michael.ruess 2008-04-17 07:47:29 UTC
*** Issue 88275 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 66 Mathias_Bauer 2008-04-21 12:52:24 UTC
The docx import consumed all resources we had in the interop area. So we have to
move the target again. Please send any complaints to Redmond.
Comment 67 jrtapper 2008-04-28 20:48:29 UTC
I would just like to add my voice to the chorus of those who would like this
issue resolved.  I agree that the docx issue is more important, but it would
sure be nice to have full RTF support too.   (I have a feeling my voice is more
likely to be heard here than in Redmond)

We have some vendor provided applications that in the absence of Word will
generate RTF output that only seems to work with Word.  These files do not open
well with WordPad or Word Viewer either.   Unfortunately, these users will be an
exception to our OO.org only policy in our company.

Thank you to everyone who is working on this project. 
Comment 68 tuharsky 2008-04-29 07:48:02 UTC
I understand the strategic choice, however I think this is quite "Microsoft
wins" one.

The OOXML is not-so-hot issue so far. Even MSOffice users understand, that .docx
files are problematic for previous versions of Office. I understand however,
that implementing this crap will take years.

I'm afraid that Microsoft won this battle, because instead of having decent RTF
support and excellent DOC/XLS support, we will have 50% RTF and 75% DOC/XLS
support and forever-doomed partial OOXML support. Everything available but
nothing perfect.

I think there should be one REALLY good "bridging" format. And considering the
amount of work done and consequences (Sun ODF plugin), the format is DOC rather
than DOCX.
Comment 69 Mathias_Bauer 2008-04-29 10:30:02 UTC
The target "3.x" should indicate that we are planning to fix that in the near
future, but not in 3.0.
Comment 70 Mathias_Bauer 2008-04-29 10:36:43 UTC
rtf, doc and docx are bascically the same format with different syntax. Our
current filters (rtf,doc) are built on separate code. Our plan is to have one
filter in the future for all formats (with different preprocessing of course).
This filter will be based on the docx filter so that this effort will pay out
for us in the long run even it is invested in a format that *today* isn't "hot".
Comment 71 tuharsky 2008-04-29 10:43:08 UTC
Okay, I understand.
Comment 72 michael.ruess 2008-05-29 08:00:27 UTC
*** Issue 90081 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 73 daliv 2008-10-18 13:23:51 UTC
May be possible do next thing for fast compatibility :
on load - it's not fully displayed (while no import procedure) , but stil exist
in document in source form and on save to same format it's will retain
untouched, so when opening on other side they will have pictures, but in OOO
that simple not displayed 
Comment 74 michael.ruess 2008-12-08 09:43:45 UTC
*** Issue 96975 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 75 michael.ruess 2009-04-02 08:43:52 UTC
*** Issue 100752 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 76 michael.ruess 2009-04-21 21:45:33 UTC
*** Issue 101253 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 77 michael.ruess 2009-09-16 20:45:47 UTC
*** Issue 104597 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 78 michael.ruess 2010-07-21 11:37:36 UTC
*** Issue 113308 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 79 daliv 2014-09-20 16:09:46 UTC
how many years need to implement "not to touch unsupported blocks" ? - won't realize - simple leave intact unparsable block
Comment 80 Marcus 2017-05-20 10:45:34 UTC
Reset the assignee to the default "issues@openoffice.apache.org".