Issue 40288 - Lack of Vertical Justification
Summary: Lack of Vertical Justification
Status: CLOSED DUPLICATE of issue 20386
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: code (show other issues)
Version: OOo 1.1.4
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: michael.ruess
QA Contact: issues@sw
Keywords: needmoreinfo, oooqa
Depends on:
Reported: 2005-01-10 14:26 UTC by bobharvey
Modified: 2005-02-18 14:37 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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Issue Type: DEFECT
Latest Confirmation in: ---
Developer Difficulty: ---

W97 file-pageLayout dialogue (33.15 KB, image/jpeg)
2005-02-17 22:42 UTC, bobharvey
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demo word file with vertical justification off (257.49 KB, image/jpeg)
2005-02-17 22:43 UTC, bobharvey
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demo word file with vertical justification on (258.71 KB, image/jpeg)
2005-02-17 22:44 UTC, bobharvey
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The demo file, saved with vertical justification on (37.50 KB, application/msword)
2005-02-17 22:45 UTC, bobharvey
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Demo file opened in OOo 1.1.4, note vert. just. lost (224.93 KB, image/jpeg)
2005-02-17 22:47 UTC, bobharvey
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Description bobharvey 2005-01-10 14:26:30 UTC
I'm putting this in 'framework' because I suspect that spreadsheet displays will
want it too, otherise it's a word processor thingy.

There appears to be no facility for vertical justification of text on the
printed page - that is alignment on a page-to-page basis of both the top of the
top line and the base of the bottom lines of text on pages.

Our great rival has done this since W97, and even old-fashioned Wordstart 7 did
it if my memory serves me right.  

In printing we used to do this byadjusting the 'leading' down the page - either
in points at paragraph gaps, or fractions of points on the way down.
Comment 1 thorsten.martens 2005-01-18 14:07:49 UTC
TM->SBA: Looks more like a writer- or printing-issue than a framework problem to
me, please have a look !
Comment 2 jack.warchold 2005-02-16 13:55:48 UTC
printing issue reassigned to hi
Comment 3 h.ilter 2005-02-16 14:22:53 UTC
HI->bobharvey: Sorry but I'm not familiar with word. Could you please attach a
screenshot to make visible what you mean. Thanks.
Comment 4 bobharvey 2005-02-17 22:41:18 UTC
What a curious request.  I'd have expected anyone with a working knowledge of
Typography to be familiar with Vertical Justification.  It's the way most books
are produced.  The line spacing ("leading") is modified so that the baseline of
the bottom line of every page is in precisely the same place.

Yhis is not just yet another request for alavish duplication of an msword
feature - in fact the ms implimentation is simplistic.  However, I will attach
what you ask for.

Comment 5 bobharvey 2005-02-17 22:42:45 UTC
Created attachment 22754 [details]
W97 file-pageLayout dialogue
Comment 6 bobharvey 2005-02-17 22:43:55 UTC
Created attachment 22756 [details]
demo word file with vertical justification off
Comment 7 bobharvey 2005-02-17 22:44:44 UTC
Created attachment 22757 [details]
demo word file with vertical justification on
Comment 8 bobharvey 2005-02-17 22:45:51 UTC
Created attachment 22758 [details]
The demo file, saved with vertical justification on
Comment 9 bobharvey 2005-02-17 22:47:04 UTC
Created attachment 22759 [details]
Demo file opened in OOo 1.1.4, note vert. just. lost
Comment 10 bobharvey 2005-02-17 22:55:46 UTC
You see what I mean about the word version being simplistic?  I'm sure that Tex
etc. does it better - working across pages for a start.

I am not sure this is a printing issue, but I don't know how demarkation is done
in the project.  I know it ought to apply to the whole suite.

There is a concise definition in
. Googling gives many others.
Comment 11 lohmaier 2005-02-17 23:12:54 UTC
Most (all?) books do not use vertical justification in the sense of "put the
first line on the top of the page and space the differnt paragaphs so that the
last line will be at the very bottom of the page".

If you really have such a book, please name it.

What you're probably looking for ist Registerhaltigkeit (Register-true).


the image shows a text with register-true not present.

OOo already has this feature: Format|Page -> (o) Register-true
Comment 12 h.ilter 2005-02-18 09:39:08 UTC
Saddle down dude. Believe me there is a life without MS-Word. 
You must know if you would give a better description, then we would know that
this is not a printing issue and I have not to ask unnecessary questions.
I'll pass you to the right hands for this kind of issues.
Comment 13 michael.ruess 2005-02-18 14:22:50 UTC
This is a duplicate to issue 20386. Though that one is about verttcally
centering, vertically justifying will also be implemented by this.

*** This issue has been marked as a duplicate of 20386 ***
Comment 14 michael.ruess 2005-02-18 14:37:31 UTC
Closing duplicate.