Issue 47111 - Auto-inserted empty page should honour page layout
Summary: Auto-inserted empty page should honour page layout
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: formatting (show other issues)
Version: current
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial with 22 votes (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
QA Contact:
: 78297 78966 101257 (view as issue list)
Depends on:
Reported: 2005-04-10 17:35 UTC by jmozdzen
Modified: 2019-02-01 09:48 UTC (History)
11 users (show)

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Issue47111.odt (28.98 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2018-10-10 15:07 UTC, sbkarlsson
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Issue47111.pdf (68.12 KB, application/pdf)
2018-10-10 15:11 UTC, sbkarlsson
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Description jmozdzen 2005-04-10 17:35:45 UTC
When creating a document with right/left side pages, empty pages are
auto-inserted to cover a right page/right page or left page/left page break.

The "blank page" should honour the page layout that would be assigned to the
page if it weren't empty, including head and foot sections. That way, with a
duplex printout, the page layout of the auto-inserted page follows that of the
regular pages - a completly empty page (as it is currently implemented) looks
awfully like a printing error :-(

Steps to reproduce the problem:
- open a new, empty document
- insert two H1 (Überschrift 1) headings
- change the H1 template to use page breaks with page layout "right page"
- change the "right page" template to include a foot section and to have the
following page formatted as "left page"
- change the "left page" template to include a foot section and to have the
following page formatted as "right page"
- change the foot section of the documents first page to contain i.e. "right
page footer"
- insert a manual page break after the first page (inserts a "left page"),
change the foot section to contain i.e. "left page footer", then remove the
manual page break (this gives you the original two pages, empty but for the
headlines and foot sections)
- change to page view ("Seitenansicht") - you'll see three pages: the first
headline/footer, a completely empty page, and the second headline/footer page.

The auto-inserted page should contain the foot section with the string "left
page footer".

This problem occurs in all versions of
Comment 1 michael.ruess 2005-04-11 09:20:17 UTC
Reassigned to "requirements".
Comment 2 jmozdzen 2005-04-24 13:43:20 UTC
This issue is mentioned in #3910 as well - I think it is worth a separate issue,
since it can be implemented independantly and is acutally NOT related to the
"unwanted blank page" issue that is the main thread in 3910.
Comment 3 jr 2005-06-30 07:22:58 UTC
added myself on cc list
Comment 4 Regina Henschel 2005-09-09 21:21:48 UTC
This feature is essential for juridical documents, because the pages must be
numbered consecutively in such documents.
Comment 5 8daysaweek 2007-02-12 15:40:21 UTC
I can see why this is necessary.  I have also been asked whether it is possible
to assign a template to these "automatically inserted blank pages".  This to say
"page intentionally left blank" or similar.

An option to choose between these alternatives, or the current behaviour for
each document would be welcome.
Comment 6 rrioja 2007-02-12 18:08:10 UTC
It is very important to have some control over the automatically inserted blank 
page.  When defining a paragraph style, you can select to insert a page break 
and can even specify the page style.  We need the same for the blank page, 
specify the page style.  Or we could specify the name of a file containing the 
page we want inserted.
Comment 7 michael.ruess 2007-06-28 11:14:14 UTC
*** Issue 78966 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 8 jmozdzen 2007-06-28 11:49:25 UTC
If the issue status is something developers look at when deciding whether to
follow-up or not, then somebody with proper privledges should change the status
of this issue to "confirmed" - the behaviour is reproducable even with the
latest releases and is a significant problem in professional environments.

Maybe the "unconfirmed" status is the reason why this issue is idling for years now?
Comment 9 Regina Henschel 2007-07-19 12:45:43 UTC
confirmed by votes
Comment 10 chozton 2007-10-30 19:14:03 UTC
Hi, I write technical training books, and I use master documents a lot. I want
to send my PDF directly to a two side printer, but i cant do this directly,
first I have to check my end of chapters to see if there is a blank page,  if
so, i have to manipulate my master document in such a way that i insert blank
lines to force an "empty" page with proper headings and footers. 
This problem makes me do many manual inserting/deleting of empty paragraphs
before sending to print. 
I think it would be very useful to have control over the page style of the
autoinserted blank page.
thanks for any help.
Comment 11 Regina Henschel 2009-04-22 11:16:01 UTC
*** Issue 101257 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 12 lohmaier 2009-06-09 12:48:42 UTC
*** Issue 78297 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 13 rrioja 2010-07-27 15:30:27 UTC
When is this going to be fixed?  It's been 5 years already !!!
Comment 14 mohithmanoj 2010-10-29 07:10:59 UTC
5 years and so far no leads! strange...
Comment 15 MacSean 2012-02-27 23:41:21 UTC
adding myself to the cc list

Almost six years since initial request :-(
Comment 16 sbkarlsson 2018-10-10 12:03:38 UTC
13.5 years and counting...
It seems a little ridiculous that an issue is open that long and nothing happens.
Looks more and more like another way to say WONT_FIX, sadly...  :-(
Comment 17 Peter 2018-10-10 14:31:15 UTC
Can you please test with latest Version?
It is old nobody knows what has happens. It is 13 years as you point out.
This would help us to reinvestigate the issue. After all it is a new management.

Also nice would be if you can check if there are duplicates. This would help us out. Since there so many bugs. You never find the important one.
Thank you for remind us on this one.
Comment 18 sbkarlsson 2018-10-10 15:07:48 UTC
Created attachment 86519 [details]
Comment 19 sbkarlsson 2018-10-10 15:11:20 UTC
Created attachment 86520 [details]
Comment 20 sbkarlsson 2018-10-10 15:14:07 UTC
The issue is still there in v4.1.5

I have added two attachment showing the problem, where page 4 (auto added) is a completely blank page. It isn't using the "Left page"-format as i should in the case.

(...or even better, would be that it used a "Blank Left Page"-format, so that one can design how blank pages should look like, for example with the text "This page is intentionally left blank." in big letters diagonally over the page , or something like that.)
Comment 21 sbkarlsson 2018-10-15 07:17:49 UTC
....also notice (in attachment Issue47111.odt and Issue47111.pdf) that the header on the last page (the page after the blank page) is strangely placed higher then the other headers, i.e. ignoring the above paragraph spacing !!!

Easily shown by increasing the above paragraph spacing to 1 inch, on the "Indent & Spacing"-tab of the Paragraph style for "Heading 1".
Comment 22 Peter 2018-10-15 19:53:47 UTC
I understand. Thanks for testing and all the observations.
Comment 23 sbkarlsson 2019-02-01 09:48:27 UTC
Is there any progress on this issue?