Issue 52888 - List style numbering is not visible if combining it with paragraph style
Summary: List style numbering is not visible if combining it with paragraph style
Status: CLOSED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: formatting (show other issues)
Version: 680m122
Hardware: All Windows XP
: P3 Trivial with 2 votes (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: michael.ruess
QA Contact: issues@sw
URL:
Keywords:
: 53336 54054 54386 54569 54991 55004 55823 56251 56298 56413 56612 56613 56848 57055 57287 57381 57427 57458 59102 59546 59708 61919 (view as issue list)
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Blocks:
 
Reported: 2005-08-04 15:23 UTC by jr
Modified: 2013-08-07 14:42 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Issue Type: DEFECT
Latest Confirmation in: ---
Developer Difficulty: ---


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Description jr 2005-08-04 15:23:35 UTC
I combined a list style with a paragraph style and applied the paragraph style
to several paragraphs. But the numbering is not visible. After saving, closing
and reopening you can see the numbering.

I can reproduce this effect only with m122 WinXP. m118, m122 Linux and m118
WinXP are ok.
Comment 1 michael.ruess 2005-08-04 17:09:24 UTC
MRU->HBRINKM: assign e.g. list style "Numbering 1" to para style "Text body".
Then assign "text body" to document and type some paragraphs -> no numbering
will be applied to the text, though it is assigned tin the paragraph format.
Comment 2 openoffice 2005-08-10 10:23:56 UTC
fixed in swnumtree
Comment 3 michael.ruess 2005-08-16 09:34:21 UTC
*** Issue 53336 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 4 michael.ruess 2005-09-01 09:23:12 UTC
*** Issue 54054 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 5 leguff 2005-09-01 13:42:06 UTC
Just wanted to add that I was also able to reproduce this issue on Suse 9.3,
m122 with german language pack.

Question:
hbrinkm wrote on August, 10th that this defect is fixed.
Which build will profit from the fix?
Comment 6 Martin Hollmichel 2005-09-01 16:16:00 UTC
please use
http://eis.services.openoffice.org/EIS2/servlet/cws.ShowCWS?Id=2726&Path=SRC680%2Fswnumtree
to track when the child workspace is going to get integrated. You will see that
the milestone is not yet determined, but you can expect a date which is
mentioned there.
Comment 7 michael.ruess 2005-09-26 16:39:00 UTC
*** Issue 54991 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 8 michael.ruess 2005-09-30 10:23:39 UTC
*** Issue 54569 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 9 openoffice 2005-10-04 14:43:33 UTC
ready for QA

re-open issue and reassign to mru@openoffice.org
Comment 10 openoffice 2005-10-04 14:43:45 UTC
reassign to mru@openoffice.org
Comment 11 openoffice 2005-10-04 14:43:56 UTC
reset resolution to FIXED
Comment 12 michael.ruess 2005-10-12 16:15:54 UTC
*** Issue 55823 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 13 michael.ruess 2005-10-12 16:16:54 UTC
Verified fix in CWS swnumtree.
Comment 14 michael.ruess 2005-10-18 15:32:54 UTC
*** Issue 54386 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 15 michael.ruess 2005-10-20 13:48:43 UTC
*** Issue 56298 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 16 michael.ruess 2005-10-20 15:56:46 UTC
*** Issue 56251 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 17 Regina Henschel 2005-10-21 23:23:42 UTC
*** Issue 56413 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 18 michael.ruess 2005-10-25 12:56:35 UTC
*** Issue 56613 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 19 michael.ruess 2005-10-25 12:58:25 UTC
*** Issue 56612 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 20 ecastro 2005-10-26 20:01:25 UTC
Just a comment,
This is an ESSENTIAL feature of the OOo styles system. A lot of documents with
heavy use of bulleted/numbered are now almost un-editable: You cannot see teh
numbering applied to a paragraph.

How such an important feature can be delayed to 2.0.1??? Even more if it is
reportedly FIXED

Enrique
Comment 21 michael.ruess 2005-10-28 10:34:45 UTC
*** Issue 56848 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 22 michael.ruess 2005-10-31 15:56:54 UTC
*** Issue 57055 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 23 michael.ruess 2005-11-03 10:43:36 UTC
*** Issue 55004 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 24 michael.ruess 2005-11-03 12:21:49 UTC
*** Issue 57287 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 25 valen1260 2005-11-03 14:47:52 UTC
Please see my thread in the Writer Forum at
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=26353

I think my problem is related to this issue.  I'm running 2.0 on WinXP.
Comment 26 michael.ruess 2005-11-06 19:24:46 UTC
*** Issue 57381 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 27 michael.ruess 2005-11-07 08:38:36 UTC
*** Issue 57427 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 28 Regina Henschel 2005-11-07 17:14:51 UTC
*** Issue 57458 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 29 michael.ruess 2005-11-11 08:36:45 UTC
Checked fix in build 680m139.
Comment 30 michael.ruess 2005-12-09 08:53:09 UTC
*** Issue 59102 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 31 michael.ruess 2005-12-19 16:32:45 UTC
*** Issue 59546 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 32 michael.ruess 2005-12-23 14:18:35 UTC
*** Issue 59708 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 33 michael.ruess 2006-02-13 11:14:33 UTC
*** Issue 61919 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 34 jkaufmann 2010-05-03 06:21:26 UTC
Why is this marked CLOSED?  This problem certainly occurs in 3.1.1 and 3.2.
Comment 35 jr 2010-05-03 06:50:06 UTC
This issue is fixed. If you combine a list style and a paragraph style, the list
is visible immediately after applying the style. Checked this again with OOo
3.2.0, Win 7. If there is a problem, please file a new issue.
Comment 36 jkaufmann 2010-05-04 05:50:52 UTC
AFAICS that's simply not true (just tried it again).  You can associate a
hierarchical Paragraph style with a List style, but only the top level (Level 1)
numbering style is honored. For all other levels, the Level 1 numbering style is
applied, regardless of the outline level of the paragraph.

The only place where this works is with the built-in styles "Heading
1".."Heading 10", which are associated with the built-in "Outline Numbering"
(under Tools menu).  If you have an example of any other Paragraph style
associated with any List style which properly inherits the list numbering styles
for *all* levels, would you please point me to it?  Thanks.
Comment 37 michael.ruess 2010-05-04 07:53:19 UTC
MRU->jkaufmann: this seems to be a different problem. First, please discuss this
with others on users@openoffice.org. If you really discovered a bug, please
submit a new issue and attach a sample document. Thanks for your patience.
Comment 38 jkaufmann 2010-05-04 18:51:15 UTC
Sorry to persist, but before I:

 (a) raise a thread on the users list (where I might be referred here), or

 (b) file a new bug report,

would you please explain why this long-known issue of associating a user-defined
Paragraph style with a user-defined List style, that I just described (above),
is "a different problem"?  It certainly sounds like exactly the problem defined
for this bug, as well as described in Issue 54386 (CLOSED: DUPLICATE), Issue
54569 (CLOSED: DUPLICATE), and Issue 56848 (CLOSED: DUPLICATE).  Is it really
helpful to have so many open/closed Issues filed on the same problem, rather
than addressing it in the referent Issue?  Did each of those earlier (CLOSED:
DUPLICATE) bug reports get us any closer to resolution? - or did they sap some
small but non-zero amount of energy from the problem?

I'm hardly alone in observing that this remains unresolved.  See, for example,
Writer forum topic 26908 of 27~30.January
<http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26908>.
Comment 39 michael.ruess 2010-05-05 08:29:14 UTC
MRU->jkaufmann:
This issue here is a general problem; it has been fixed and still works. You are
the only one to experience this in your environment. I have checked this with
built-in styles (associated "Numbering 1" list style to "Text body" para style -
and the paragraph was nicely numbered; I created a new para style and associated
a self-made list style to it - the paragraph was nicely numbered, either).
So it points to the fact, that you discovered a special case for which you
should discuss this on the mailing list / newsgroup or file a new issue for
which you should attach your sample document for two reasons:
- as I mentioned, this issue is general and your problem seems to be a special one
- old issue which have been fixed in former builds should not be re-opened,
because these get extremely inconvenient to handle - you see yourself, how long
the thread became on this issue.
Thanks for your patience.
Comment 40 jkaufmann 2010-05-05 13:49:20 UTC
?? How can you say I'm the only one to experience this problem recently -
immediately after I cite a URL where two other people agree on the same problem
with OO3.1.1, in a thread from 27~30.Jan.2010?  Did you read that thread?

Could we do this?:  Before opening yet another issue on this problem, via
another bug report, could we exchange examples?  Could I send you a file with
the problem, and you send me your file without the problem?

Meanwhile I must apologize that I have not cited the environments in which I
have tested the problem. They are OO3.1.1 on WinXP and OO3.2 on WinXP and OSX
10.5.8.
Comment 41 michael.ruess 2010-05-06 10:47:58 UTC
If you (and others) are sure, that you have discovered a bug, please file a new
issue - it is the most convenient way to handle. But only do this, if you are
sure, that it is a bug - this is not a support formum here and we do not have
the resources to grant support for a "free of charge" product.
Comment 42 jkaufmann 2010-05-08 21:42:43 UTC
jkaufmann->MRU

> If you (and others) are sure, that you have discovered a bug,
> please file a new issue - it is the most convenient way to handle.
> But only do this, if you are sure, that it is a bug ...

Since you mention "and others", I wrote to two persons (from the thread cited
above) who have recently observed the problem, to see if they concur with a bug
report.  While I wait for their replies, may I observe a possible communication
problem that seems to impede out progress, and see if we can figure out how to
overcome it?  I ask questions that get no answers and suggestions that get no
acknowledgment.  For example:

- I asked if we could exchange examples: You send me an example which is
working, and I send you one where it appears to be not working.  My purpose is
yours - "only do this [file a report], if you are sure, that it is a bug" - yet
I received no reply to that suggestion.

- I asked if it is really better to issue another duplicate bug report, when
there have already been so many marked CLOSED:DUPLICATE.  This seems like a
reasonable question, intended to minimize the burden, but no reply.

To minimize the time needed to get to a solution, would it not make our
communication better - more efficient - if we reply directly to each other?


> - this is not a support formum here and we do not have
> the resources to grant support for a "free of charge" product.

I sympathize. None of us has the resources for extraneous problems. That's why I
value efficient communication.  Much of what I do, "free of charge", is simply
trying to do the right thing, which includes promoting OpenOffice.  So I want it
to work, preferably work well - an objective I know we share.


Finally, with respect to bug reports: When an issue is marked "FIXED", does
anyone close the loop with the filer of the bug report?  Is there even any way
to tell WHO filed the report?  A few posts above, I mentioned three other bug
reports that I found when my search turned up this one.  I just went through the
comments and find 22 other issues marked as CLOSED:DUPLICATE of this one.  That
means at least 23 other people have already filed bug reports similar to one I
could write.  Has any one of them been contacted to see if the issue is resolved
for them?
Comment 43 Regina Henschel 2010-05-08 21:56:33 UTC
@jkaufmann: You are likely confusing list numbering and chapter numbering. But
we should discuss this outside issue tracker. You can send me your example as PM
and I will have a look at it and send it back with comments.