Issue 54325 - WW8: not possible to ungroup objects from drawing canvas
Summary: WW8: not possible to ungroup objects from drawing canvas
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: editing (show other issues)
Version: OOO 2.0 Beta2
Hardware: PC Windows XP
: P3 Trivial with 2 votes (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
QA Contact:
: 113921 (view as issue list)
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Reported: 2005-09-07 14:36 UTC by fabiop
Modified: 2017-05-20 11:22 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Issue Type: DEFECT
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zipped ms word document, showing the problem (50.80 KB, application/x-compressed)
2005-09-07 14:37 UTC, fabiop
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Trivial word .doc file containing drawing which OO can't modify (2.19 KB, application/octet-stream)
2006-08-04 00:22 UTC, larrybutcher
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Description fabiop 2005-09-07 14:36:58 UTC
I have a simple document written with ms word 2003, with some drawing. 
In MSWord, when I make a drawing, the editor encapsulates all drawing elements
(arrows, lines, boxes) in a single frame. If I open the document with
OOo2.0beta2, I see the drawing and I can move it aroud, as a whole. But I am not
able to move the individual items.
Comment 1 fabiop 2005-09-07 14:37:52 UTC
Created attachment 29372 [details]
zipped ms word document, showing the problem
Comment 2 fabiop 2005-10-18 14:13:48 UTC
Tried OO 2.0 beta 3. Same behaviour: it is not possible to edit a drawing in a
MS word document. The whole drawing appears as a group and it is not possible to
ungroup it.
Comment 3 michael.ruess 2005-11-02 15:41:06 UTC
MRU->OD: the objects from MS's drawing canvas cannot be ungrouped in OO; means:
the "ungroup" option will not be offered.
Comment 4 michael.ruess 2005-11-02 15:41:48 UTC
Wanted to reassign to OD.
Comment 5 larrybutcher 2006-08-04 00:18:01 UTC
Title of this issue has "drawing" mis-spelled; hence hard to search for.

Could be "not possible to ungroup or edit .doc drawing within a canvas"

A Word document I want to edit with Open Office contains many inline figures.

As the original submission indicates, I cannot import the .doc file and then 
edit the drawings with Open Ofice 2.0.3

Since this sort of document is the bread-and-butter of technical docs, I 
cannot tell my coworkers to change.

Enclosed please find a new .doc file (created with Microsoft Office Word 2003 
(11.8026.6568) SP2 containing a figure which can be edited inline with Word 
but which cannot be edited by any way I know with Open Office 2.0.3

Comment 6 larrybutcher 2006-08-04 00:22:17 UTC
Created attachment 38248 [details]
Trivial word .doc file containing drawing which OO can't modify
Comment 7 larrybutcher 2006-08-04 00:58:59 UTC
Major breakthrough in understanding.

IF the imported drawing is set as "Anchor: As Character" you cannot do "Group: 
Edit Group", and cannot edit the internal content of the drawing.

If you change things to "Anchor: To Page", "Anchor: To Paragraph", or "Anchor: 
To Character" you CAN do "Group: Edit Group" and then edit the drawing.  It 
lets you select things like lines.

After editing you should set things back to "Anchor: As Character", which 
works best.

(After changing the Anchor, you cannot really edit the drawing, because the 
following paragraph is sitting on top of it so everything is mixed up.  But at 
least it lets you select things in the drawing and mess with them.

This is not a work-around, as editing is not practical for this and many other 

What I think would work best is if Open Office did an "Insert: Object: OLE 
Object: 2.0 Drawing" and inserted the imported Word figure in 
that object in an ungrouped form.  But that might be major work.

It might (I hope) be less work to let users edit the group even when the 
Anchor is set to "As Character".  This would allow minor adjustments.


Comment 8 larrybutcher 2006-08-04 03:22:07 UTC
My "OLE" idea doesn't seem to be a good one.

After experimenting, I believe that Microsoft Office needs to have OpenOffice 
installed in order to let you edit embedded drawings which originated in OO.

At this time I don't know any way to enter drawings inline (within a text 
document) which can both be easily edited and which can be translated to and 
from .doc files, allowing updates by people using either tool.

For technical documentation, this is a significant obstacle to the use of OO.

I will ask around in case someone else knows a technique which works.  
Hopefully this will turn out to be ignorance on my part.

My present scheme of starting a document in word, then importing into OO 
doesn't seem to work.
Comment 9 Regina Henschel 2006-10-21 17:49:24 UTC
It is not a problem of import from .doc. Generate a group in Draw, copy it to
clipboard and paste it to Writer as "Drawing format". If you anchor it to
character, no group options offered. For all other anchor ways you can ungoup it
or enter the group.
Comment 10 Regina Henschel 2006-10-21 17:53:24 UTC
Please excuse me, it should read: If you anchor it _as_
character, no group options offered.
Comment 11 Rainer Bielefeld 2007-11-13 19:31:00 UTC
Pls see my comments 'Tue Nov 13 19:30:01' in Issue 83498!
Comment 12 michael.ruess 2010-08-17 15:35:59 UTC
*** Issue 113921 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 13 Marcus 2017-05-20 11:22:49 UTC
Reset assigne to the default "".