Issue 55499 - OOo printing dialogue should set printer properties
Summary: OOo printing dialogue should set printer properties
Status: CLOSED DUPLICATE of issue 91260
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Product: General
Classification: Code
Component: code (show other issues)
Version: OOO 2.0 Beta2
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial with 6 votes (vote)
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Assignee: requirements
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Reported: 2005-10-05 16:26 UTC by grsingleton
Modified: 2010-05-08 09:38 UTC (History)
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Description grsingleton 2005-10-05 16:26:53 UTC
There seems to be a problem with getting print settings for any OOo document.
Requiring users to set print properties for the printer when they have already
set them in the target document is causing more confusion and frustration than
necessary. For example, this message from users is typical of the problem:

Subject:      Trouble in Calc printing legal size paper with landscape layout,
margin in print preview fine, but bad in printing
From:         Fajar Priyanto <fajarpri@cbn.net.id>
Reply-To:     users@openoffice.org
Newsgroups:   gmane.comp.openoffice.questions
Date:         Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:14:32 +0700

Dear all,
I'm using OpenOffice 2 beta 2 with WindowsXP. I have trouble printing a
Calc sheet in legal size paper in landscape layout.

When I preview it in print preview, the layout is perfect. But, when I
print it, the layout got cut about 1 inch on the right side. No matter
what I adjust on the margin, the result is the same.

Can anyone give me a direction here?
Thank you,
Comment 1 ralleon 2005-10-07 13:15:07 UTC
In the case of Fajar Priyanto (Indonesia?), it appeared that there was a
confusion in the term "legal" size. It seems that he mistakenly referred to
'legal' the actual papersize he was printing on was 8.5"x13" (which is Folio). 

Same case for us in the Philippines: when somebody makes a typical legal
contract or anything that needs to be notarized (for any purpose), it is almost
always written on a FOLIO papersize (8.5" X 13") - our local "legal size"
commonly known as "LongBond paper". So every first-time user of wordprocessor or
spreadsheet (eg. MSOffice, Openoffice etc,) will normally make the same mistake
- in the absence of a 'choice' to click on with the mouse.

Lettersize (8.5x11) & Folio (8.5x13) are the two most commonly used papersizes
in the Philippines, in school and government, (and probably to some neighboring
asian countries). 

How about including "Folio 8.5 x 13" as part of the Format-Page-PaperFormat menu
in OpenOffice.org? That way, there will be lesser confusion since the actual
papersize (8.5 x 13) is clearly indicated. (...for the sake of some countries in
this part of the world using that papersize) 

From experience, it is very hard teaching (our common people) the concept of
"templates". They would rather let you print for them, than change the default
setting. Every new trainee in our office/students had at some point made that
mistake, using "legal" when they were actually referring to Folio - which must
be custom-set every time. 

I hope OpenOffice.org can consider this local/specific needs of some countries. 

Regards,
Rally de Leon
Philippines
Comment 2 mjneedles 2005-10-08 15:05:09 UTC
The comments about Folio are valid for some Latin American countries, too,
including Guatemala, where all legal documents use that size, but it is called
"tamaño oficio."
Comment 3 mci 2005-10-09 18:03:48 UTC
something for CJ?
Comment 4 thorsten.martens 2005-10-13 14:35:37 UTC
Changed owner
Comment 5 seaq 2006-02-23 01:05:39 UTC
Hi, this is a serious problem that requires some addressing from developers.  In
a lot of latin american countries the Folio (known as Oficio) is the second
paper size most used, and several entities cannot use oo.o because of this problem

how can we help????

Regards and thanks for your efforts
Comment 6 ymulleneers 2007-07-18 08:14:02 UTC
For helping, program or vote for issues...
Comment 7 caolanm 2010-05-07 16:15:10 UTC
This paper size was added to the dialog in 3.2. In the English translation it's
called "Long Bond" because of the ambiguity around the term "Folio".

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/DefaultPaperSize#Notes_on_Legal.2C_Folio.2C_German_Legal_Fanfold_and_Long_Bond_Paper

*** This issue has been marked as a duplicate of 91260 ***
Comment 8 caolanm 2010-05-07 16:15:57 UTC
close as duplicate
Comment 9 caolanm 2010-05-08 09:38:11 UTC
See issue 111474 for making the translation of the size better in Spanish to
make it clear that it's the desired size.