Issue 5963 - Copy from web: should Paste as Unformatted Text by default.
Summary: Copy from web: should Paste as Unformatted Text by default.
Status: CLOSED DUPLICATE of issue 17563
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: ui (show other issues)
Version: OOo 1.0.1
Hardware: PC Windows 2000
: P3 Trivial with 11 votes (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: bettina.haberer
QA Contact: issues@sw
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Keywords: oooqa
: 5747 6685 7761 9410 25759 (view as issue list)
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Blocks:
 
Reported: 2002-06-19 06:32 UTC by Unknown
Modified: 2008-11-05 20:27 UTC (History)
6 users (show)

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Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT
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Description Unknown 2002-06-19 06:32:34 UTC
Try copying some text from a webpage (even just a word or two!) into a Writer 
document. The tables and special characters created are horrible (who wants the 
<!--EndFragment--> comments?).

This is really annoying. 99% of the time you just want the text, not the 
formatting. The default should be to paste as Unformatted Text and if you want 
the formatting you can do a Paste Special, not the other way around as it is 
now. Especially considering that the tables that are created are not easy to 
delete: you can't just back space over them as with anything else.

The current default breaks too many fundamental user assumptions about copying 
and pasting.

(This is my first bug: sorry if it's a duplicate, I had trouble knowing when I 
had searched enough with the query system as it is overly complex)
Comment 1 prgmgr 2002-08-31 01:20:13 UTC
*** Issue 5747 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 2 prgmgr 2002-08-31 01:22:26 UTC
Thanks for posting Chuck.

In general, cutting and pasting content from a web browser to OO 
Writer does not capture what was originally copied from the web 
browser.


Duplicated on Win NT 4.0 SP6a, OO 1.0.1, IE 5.5.
Comment 3 prgmgr 2002-09-04 23:49:48 UTC
*** Issue 6685 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 4 prgmgr 2002-09-05 04:47:48 UTC
*** Issue 7489 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 5 prgmgr 2002-09-11 04:01:02 UTC
*** Issue 7610 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 6 prgmgr 2002-09-18 02:58:13 UTC
Changing this to an enhancement request.
Comment 7 stefan.baltzer 2002-11-25 13:58:53 UTC
IMHO, the current way (to paste "in the best available format") is a
good thing. Unfortunately, HTML has diferent encodings that may lead
to trouble if the corresponding settings are not made under
Tools-Options-Load/Save-HTML Compatibility. 
Since browsing from page to page of course is "dynamic" and thus
leading to "wrong" settings depending on the current HTML page, the
"unformatted text" may look like a good solution for some users. But
only those copying only unformatted text. Even things like bold,
italic, underlined get lost. And many pages use tables too.

Giving the user a choice what format should be used by default is the
only meaningful solution I can see. Reassigned to CJ.
Comment 8 prgmgr 2002-11-29 21:35:32 UTC
*** Issue 7761 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 9 prgmgr 2002-11-29 21:36:09 UTC
*** Issue 9410 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 10 bwcarver 2002-12-03 18:42:42 UTC
Workaround and a suggestion:

Workaround:
I have temporarily dealt with this by going to Tools | Configure |
KeyboardTab and made Shift+Control+V = Edit | Paste Special. This cuts
out several of the annoying steps I used to go through to paste from
Mozilla, but still requires me to select "Unformatted Text" before
pasting.

Suggestion:
It seems one of the best ways to solve this (and greatly enhance
OO.org) would be to improve the Configure options so that one can
assign more detailed tasks to keyboard shortcuts. Right now we can
only assign main menu options to be keyboard shortcuts. If I could
make SHFT_CTRL_V=PasteSpecialUnformattedText then this issue would be
solved in my mind. It would also resolve another enhancement request I
have for OO.org because if Configure allowed for greater detail in
what can be assigned to keys then it could allow me to assign symbol
insertions to shorcut-keys. I write lots of docs with symbolic logic
in them and this would save me enormous amounts of time.
Comment 11 christian.jansen 2003-03-24 07:54:38 UTC
Reassiged to Bettina.
Comment 12 andmalc 2003-07-16 03:44:18 UTC
Please at least assign a keyboard shortcut (Brian's suggestion of
Shift+Control+V sounds good) to Paste Special Unformatted Text.  I use
this feature constantly when assembling documents from pieces of other
documents.

Also, I'd suggest following MS Word's behavior in the following
respect: text that is pasted as Unformatted takes on the style in
effect at the insertion point.
Comment 13 ajkessel 2003-07-27 17:34:01 UTC
Duplicated on GNU/Linux (I suppose this isn't a surprise).

I would just like to put in another pitch for the keyboard shortcut
solution. Independently of others here, I defined ctrl-shift-v to
"paste special", which does save some steps, but with the amount of
copying I do from the web browser, it's a constant annoyance to have
the extra keystroke and dialogue box.  Giving the user the option to
define a paste unformatted key would be a tremendous timesaver.
Comment 14 dsmilek 2003-11-07 00:25:51 UTC
I've solved the web page issue by recording a macro that 
automatically does paste special>unformatted text and assigned it to 
CTRL+Shift+V

However I do miss the MS Word XP feature that allows one to select 
what level of information the text should be copied after it is 
pasted.

Some kind of customization and flexibility in this would be very 
helpful - especially since most of the coping done from the web into 
a wordprocessor simply needs to be as text only.
Comment 15 jnoreiko 2004-09-26 18:19:17 UTC
Perhaps a user option that sets the behaviour of the plain "paste" command to
formatted or unformatted would be useful too.
Comment 16 giuliano1969 2005-05-22 00:44:14 UTC
I have the same problem importing text form Firefox.
Again, the same problem araises when importing text from another Wordprocessor
in a different format.

I suggest having in the context menu (right click) also the entry "Paste special".

Or, even better, to allow the user to customize the context menu.

Giuliano Lotta
Comment 17 stp 2006-03-10 08:47:42 UTC
*** Issue 25759 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 18 moxfox 2007-07-17 19:45:02 UTC
Making unformatted a default (unconditionally) would break the expected user experience for most 
people. While it may be possible to add some smartness to the paste, depending on the source and target 
context, the more straightforward way to do this is to create a shortcut for the unformatted text pasting.
=> issue 17563

Since shortcut fullfills the need here (more-or-less), I'm marking this as duplicate.


*** This issue has been marked as a duplicate of 17563 ***
Comment 19 Mechtilde 2008-11-05 20:23:57 UTC
close the duplicate
Comment 20 Mechtilde 2008-11-05 20:27:28 UTC
.