Issue 6002 - Referenced Objects
Summary: Referenced Objects
Alias: None
Product: Draw
Classification: Application
Component: ui (show other issues)
Version: OOo 1.0.0
Hardware: PC Windows 2000
: P3 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Keywords: oooqa
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Reported: 2002-06-20 11:07 UTC by helpman
Modified: 2013-02-07 22:39 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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Issue Type: FEATURE
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Description helpman 2002-06-20 11:07:14 UTC
When using e.g. the presentation application to write a storyboard, I oftne use
the same elements on many pages. Now, when I need to make a change to a
particular object (e.g. if I have to change an element with a grey background to
an element with a blue background and a green border) I would have to apply
these changes manually to all objects on all pages I have written. This is a
highly time-consuming and error-prone process.

It would be great to be able to 'reference' objects. This means that I can
create an 'original' object and then be able to derive 'reference objects'. This
would mean that the original is not simply copied, but the newly created
references reflect the changes I apply to the original object (e.g. when I
change the color of the original from grey to blue, all references change their
color too).
To push this one step further: Managing reference objects could be cone with a
sort of 'palette window' where I could drag-and-drop: Dragging an object from a
page to the palette creates a new original, draggin from the palette to the page
could create a reference.  
(Exact interaction needs to be finalized, but I could provde more detail if the
idea sounds interesting).
CorelDraw 11, Macromedia Freehand and Adobe Illustrator seem to provide this
Adobe GoLive uses drag-and-drop palettes
Comment 1 Frank Schönheit 2002-07-09 15:15:24 UTC
to me this very much sounds like it should be solved with styles. OOo
already supports styles for a variety of objects, and this here seems
to be a candidate, too.
You would then just tell your objects to have a given style, and
whenever you change the style, all objects change, too. This is how it
works for instance with paragraphs in OOo Writer.

I surely think we should re-use the style concept here, and not
reintroduce a new concept ("referenced objects") which seems to do the

Anyway, to me this very much sounds like a feature request for the
drawing layer. Changing the component and QA contact accordingly.

Comment 2 helpman 2002-07-09 15:45:51 UTC
In response to Frank's comment:

Using the styles feature only work for propagating graphical changes.
My suggestion aims at changing content of groups of elements.
Imagine a situation where you have drawn a set of five objects in a
certain order. Now you have used this group on severeal pages and now
decide to change the order of the elements, or you need to add or
delete an item. Currently, you would have to do this manually on all
My proposal aims at extending the current 'Gallery' feature. It is
already possible to drag a group of objects to the gallery an to reuse
them via drag-and-drop.  I would propose to extend this functionality:
- Extend the current copy-functionality (all elements drawn from the
galery a copies) to provide a copy-as-reference (items from the galery
are mere references to the galery item (just like a windows desktop
shortcut is a mere representation of a program file, not the program
file itself)
- Make Objects in the Galery editable. Objects would be edited in a
seperate OOo document. Closing the document via save or update would
update the object within the Gallery. Previously copied items would
remain unchanged, referenced items would reflect the changes applied
within the Gallery.

For example: Create a group of objects 'A' 'B' and 'C' as text boxes
from left to right. Drag them to the Gallery. Drag-and-drop some
references. Edit the item within the Gallery to be 'C' 'A' 'B'. Update
the Item. Result: All references are now displayed as 'C' 'B' 'A'.
Comment 3 stefan.baltzer 2002-10-01 16:35:55 UTC
Reassigned to Marc.
Comment 4 marc.neumann 2002-10-11 11:06:23 UTC is responsible for features, so I reassign this.
Comment 5 ace_dent 2008-05-16 02:41:35 UTC Issue Tracker - Feedback Request.

The Issue you raised has the status 'New' pending further action, but has not
been updated within the last 4 years. Please consider re-testing with one of the
latest versions of OOo, as the problem(s) may have already been addressed.
Either use the recent stable version:
or consider trying the new OOo 3 BETA (still in testing):
Please report back the outcome so this Issue may be Closed or Progressed as
necessary - otherwise it may be Resolved as Invalid in the future. You may also
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Many thanks,
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Comment 6 ace_dent 2008-06-02 18:02:17 UTC
Lowering Issue priority...

P2 - Marks severe problems which affect a significant number of customers.
Issues with this priority must be fixed before the target release ... and should
be dealt with as soon as possible. Not fixing them for the target release is not
Comment 7 bettina.haberer 2010-05-21 14:51:08 UTC
To grep the issues easier via "requirements" I put the issues currently lying on
my owner to the owner "requirements".