Issue 61452 - Ribbons in OOo?
Summary: Ribbons in OOo?
Alias: None
Product: General
Classification: Code
Component: code (show other issues)
Version: OOo 2.0.1
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial with 21 votes (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
QA Contact:
: 128182 (view as issue list)
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Reported: 2006-01-31 20:44 UTC by jayze
Modified: 2019-08-23 09:19 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Document of the original presentation from the Internet (351.08 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2006-02-10 19:18 UTC, jayze
no flags Details
Previous versions of MS Word (including the current MS Word 2003) (964.07 KB, application/pdf)
2006-02-10 19:26 UTC, jayze
no flags Details
Planned new version for MS Office 12 (347.77 KB, application/pdf)
2006-02-10 19:32 UTC, jayze
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Description jayze 2006-01-31 20:44:07 UTC
Microsoft plans to integrate ribbons (i.e. adaptive toolbars) into its next 
package; MS Office 12 (currently in beta 1 testing phase). One of the 
developers, Jensen Harris, maintains a blog  
( that discusses
this "new" development. There is also a nice "short" 70-slide presentation 
outlining this at (I will copy 
this data into an .odt document and upload it). 

Ribbons are "adaptive toolbars" ie. depending on where you click the toolbars 
change and the result is a different toolbar of icons that shows what possible 
options you can now follow e.g. if you click in a cell then the toolbars 
change and the toolbar displayed now has macros and icons for inserting a row, 
column, deleting a row, column, inserting a cell, deleting a cell, etc. I know 
this functionality was built into the Object toolbar but my real concern is 
that the new Microsoft method is definitely impressive. Would it be possible 
to integrate this functionality as an option for a future release of OOo after 
MS Office 12 is released, or even to provide something that goes beyond?
Comment 1 jayze 2006-02-02 19:17:48 UTC
Sorry, am unable to upload the document as file size exceeds 1MB (.odt is 
3.18MB, .pdf is 1.73MB).
Comment 2 thorsten.martens 2006-02-08 11:14:47 UTC
TM-requirements: please have a look, thanks !
Comment 3 jayze 2006-02-10 19:18:44 UTC
Created attachment 34058 [details]
Document of the original presentation from the Internet
Comment 4 jayze 2006-02-10 19:26:55 UTC
Created attachment 34059 [details]
Previous versions of MS Word (including the current MS Word 2003)
Comment 5 jayze 2006-02-10 19:32:07 UTC
Created attachment 34061 [details]
Planned new version for MS Office 12
Comment 6 jayze 2006-02-10 19:33:16 UTC
Okay, I've split the original file into three subfiles. The original file
contained a number of images; one set pertains to previous versions (as well as
the current MS Word 2003 version) of MS Word and the other second set concerned
the newer version (MS Office 12). These two image sets have been combined into
two .pdf documents (these are referred to in the original document as
companions). The first set of images dealing with previous versions of MS Word
is called "Ye Olde Museum Of Office Past" (even though it only displays Word)
and the second set dealing with the newer MS Office 12 is called "The New UI
Framework". Please note that all three documents are based on original
copyrighted material so they should only be viewed by the developers for the
purpose of enhancing as well as other users viewing this issue
i.e. these are not documents for public display. Thank you
Comment 7 johnks 2007-07-30 17:23:00 UTC
*** Issue 61452 has been confirmed by votes. ***
Comment 8 ed2 2007-07-31 20:22:43 UTC
As of version 2 (and to a lesser degree before that), OOo already has context
sensitive toolbars.

This is a request for a feature that the product already has, and as such is
Comment 9 lalf 2007-08-01 09:13:50 UTC

I very much beg to differ. It is not just about context
sensitive toolbars, but about their design and functionality.

Please read the attachments.
Comment 10 ed2 2007-08-01 13:13:13 UTC

I have read all the attachments, an nowhere in any of these attachments is any
indication of what you are proposing OOo should do!

All I can deduce is that you think OOo should have context sensitive toolbars,
which it already does.

As this request doesn't even state anywhere what it is a request for, it is
completely meaningless!
Comment 11 lalf 2007-08-02 09:12:00 UTC
It's a request for a redesign of the UI og OoO.
How does one file a such.

Comment 12 ed2 2007-08-08 13:37:44 UTC
A first step in filing any request has to be to state what is being requested.
This issue does not do this. Nowhere does this issue state what specific changes
are being requested.

This issue can never be resolved. Without having the slightest idea what you are
asking for, no one can possibly act on your request.
Comment 13 lalf 2007-08-16 14:50:17 UTC
Specifically requested is a redesign of the UI of OOo. 
Asked for: A similar interface as the one described in the enclosed documents
outlining the functionality of the MS2007 ribbon-interface.

I know that such a request requires much more than what you can do by yourself.
But please: How is one else to start an initiative aimed at redesigning the UI
of OOo?


"A first step in filing any request has to be to state what is being requested.
This issue does not do this. Nowhere does this issue state what specific changes
are being requested.

This issue can never be resolved. Without having the slightest idea what you are
asking for, no one can possibly act on your request."
Comment 14 lalf 2007-08-31 09:52:28 UTC
Would it be possible to implement some of these results?
Comment 15 ed2 2007-09-14 11:53:21 UTC
Are you suggesting that we delete all the code currently in OOo and replace it
with a slavish exact copy of the latest version of MS Office?
Comment 16 jayze 2007-09-14 12:13:20 UTC
Please read what I wrote. I asked for this as an option for users i.e. I don't 
want OpenOffice code replaced, but added to. I'm merely suggesting that if 
people want to use a Ribbon-like toolbar, then they should be able to. And the 
fact that something similar has been coded for a linux desktop suggests that 
it is not impossible to implement.

I'm not asking for the entire GUI to be replaced with this. I'm suggesting 
that a user should be able to switch between a classic view of OOo as it is 
now, and the new GUI, if they want to.
Comment 17 lalf 2007-09-15 21:27:05 UTC

At the moment we are already imitating the UI of Office2003. Why not see this an
opportunity to make some radical adjustments to the current one. With the
momentum Google Docs are getting at the moment, we need to be able to provide
something more than just a free alternative to MS Office. 
I second Jayze's proposal on making it an optional way of organizing menus and

Comment 18 jayze 2009-02-03 16:40:36 UTC
I'm glad to see, as lalf wrote, that plans to look at this issue
quite seriously. They've developed the Renaissance Project
( which, if I follow
correctly, will not imitate the Ribbon interface (which is being patented by
Microsoft) but produce something better. Just what this will be, we will have to
Comment 19 tommy27 2009-08-09 18:47:11 UTC
Personally i hate MS ribbons and i hate this ribbon(rubbish)-like new GUI that 
OOo developers are trying to build with poject Renaissance.

I think the day OOo will try to force me to use ribbons I'll stop using OOo
Comment 20 tommy27 2009-08-22 09:32:58 UTC
the new Renaissance GUI seems to be not much loved...
even a petition against it has been started:
Comment 21 Peter 2019-08-23 05:27:55 UTC
*** Issue 128182 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 22 Lee 2019-08-23 09:19:01 UTC
Well, just my two cents, so, feel free to round file it if you want.

I'm just starting to take classes for accounting, the class uses Office 2016, having previously used Office 97 and now AOO for years, I was seriously floundering trying to find where M$ hid everything. Knowing that feeling, if someone was using M$ at work / school but wanted to do stuff at home with AOO, they too would be floundering as the UIs are so radically different. It would be *useful* if the UI could be switched to what ever the user is comfortable using, if they're comfortable with the "classic" look then they can use it, if they've been taught the 'new' look and is comfortable with it, then they can switch to that and use it. This would give users options and choices, so that would be a good thing. Yeah, the new UI sucks, agreed, but if it's what students are being taught and it's what's being used by industry there isn't a whole lot us old timers can do but adapt or switch careers / college majors to something that doesn't use Office. :(