Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Issue 6401
Allowing more than one Alphabetical Index
Last modified: 2018-07-19 16:44:30 UTC
The current OOo writer allows only one alphabetical index to be defined. Writing scientific documents requires more than one such index. E.g. in my case I need a key<word index for the specific keywords and their apperance within the document. At the same time I would need an Author index, containing only the author's names and their rexpective appearance. Both indexes are of the 'Alphabetical' type, yet I can define only one or the other (keyword or author index). The 'user defined' type does not allow the grouping of identical entries, so this cannot be used either. Proposal: Allow multiple Alphabetical Index in much the same way as the definition of user defined indexes works.
Reassigned to Éric.
ES: yes, it's a good idea!
Thank you for reporting this issue. It is considered for 'Office later'.
Does "Office Later" mean post-2.0? I know that many authors writing scientific documents would appreciate it very much. I think it would be a very good idea to implement it in 2.0 at the latest. As far as I know, MS Word doesn't allow multiple alphabetical indexes either, so it would be another good argument for switching :)
Actually, Word does support such a feature. I have been using it in my PhD Thesis, where I needed an Author's index and a Keyword-Index (which definitely is common pratice, at least in scientific literature). But, to turn the sales-argument upside-down, *not* being able to have these two indexes in OOo would be a strong argument for using MS-Word rather than OOo.
HI! Yes, please do it! I need it, too! A little work-around for me is to use a user-defined index and then uncheck the option to allow manual changes in the document and then mark the whole index and click Menu Extras -> Sort. So you can easily sort it. But it is not perfect and everytime you reload the index you have to do it again... but it should be OK when you sort, save and print the document. Yours Christoph Hess
I have to concur with previous commenters. I want this feature very very VERY badly. It is a limitation that isn't at all practical to try to work around. Please allow a user-defined index to behave exactly the same as an Alphabetical Index (ie, with support for 1st and 2nd keys), and multiple pages listed for a given entry.
I was just rechecking the status of this issue and happened to notice the priority of this issue. According to the priority descriptions, P4 is for "easily worked around" bugs. It's not my experience that this bug is easy to work around at all. Trying to use the Tools->Sort feature on an index seems to result in the message "Cannot sort selection" if the number of columns in the index is >1, and it appears to be impossible to work around. If the number of columns is only 1, then sorting works fine, but upon setting the number of columns for that index back to some other value, it automatically updates the table again and the order it had previously is lost. Also, doing this wouldn't work even for single column indexes if one wanted to use both first and second level indexes.
I'd like to add the wish to connect to each alphabetic index its own concordance file that would be part of the index-definition. Today all indices use the same concordance file. Greetings, Claudia
*** Issue 52273 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
I'd add a further utility that would be included with the possibility of various alfabetical indexes in combination with a concordance file. It would be possible to crate a glossar by introducing the explication into the column "alternative entry" and the abbreviation as well as index entry (to be found within the text) and as the first key (to use it as order-argument). So it would be possible to add the same abbreviation-list to various documents an create a glossar in this way: Entry Description cheers
I too appreciate an option for multiple alphabetical indexes, with an concordance file. In addition to authors and keyword indexes I do also need a list of abbreviations, so it seems for me that at least three alphabetical indexes in one dokument may be usefull. All of them with the option for a concordance file. Furthermore I would prefer the possibility of using "character templates" - not only the "paragraph templates" - for generating an "user defined" index, together with the ability of alphabetical order of those marked Words.
I strongly support adding this feature, as well. More than one alphabetical index with full functionality (concordance file, keys, entry grouping) is simply essential for longer documents like a thesis.
It's a great idea to allow more than one Alphabetical Index. Please include UNICODE support for the concordance files. Sometimes you need to include weird characters in the index: e.g. transliteration of foreign languages, etc.
Hi Mathias, I have changed the current owner to your owner. Please take the ownership of these enhancements.
*** Issue 104692 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
MsWord can create more than one Alphabetical Index in a Document. Is complex: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/154025/en-us/
Microsoft Word allows you to edit field code to edit Alphabetical Index. Identifying Groups of Index Fields When you are building more than one index and want particular index entries to appear only within particular indexes, use the \f flag to label those entries. For example, if you are building a name index, a command index, and a general index (in which names and commands are included), you'll need two different arguments for the \f flag: one for the names, and one for the commands. The general index is the standard default index produced without the \f flags. {XE "main heading:name one" \f "names"} {XE "main heading:command one" \f "commands"} {XE "main heading:general stuff one"} {XE "main heading:name two" \f "names"} {XE "main heading:command two" \f "commands"} {XE "main heading:general stuff two"} For a similar problem see issue: http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=24250
That issue waits since a long time. I've no new wishes, only would like to remember it. Would be a very nice feature.
I think it's an indispensable feature for many scientific writings.
We need this indispensable tool.
Is absolutely important to have this feature! Eight-year wait...
Please implemented this feature! OOo writer indexing tools needs improvement. Alphabetical index is CRUCIAL for academic use and publishing. Creating a basic working index requires a small, but essential set of functions. Missing one or more of these features severely affects the ability to create an effective index. I recommend reading this papaer (in particular pages 6 and 7) http://www.allegrotechindexing.com/indexingtools.pdf Issues very important Allowing more than one Alphabetical Index http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=6401 Footnotes are not included in Alphabetical Index http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=32392 Alphabetical Indexes cross-reference http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=104691 Index markers do not support cross references or bookmarks http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=24250 Alphabetical index: allow marking pages as entry range even if the keyword doesn't appear on every pages http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=94565 A very interesting idea Navigator should also list all Index Entries http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=61643
In first place sorry, i don't speak english very well. I think OOo it's an excellent word processor, but prectically I need more than one alphabetical index in the most of documents I write. I don't know if another alternative possibility could be to add an option to order the "user index".
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Why not change "user defined index" so that is usable for the "alphabetical index"? In this way the user interface just needs a little retouching. See attachment. http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/68322/Index_OOo.pdf Regards.
See Issue 104734 Is a duplicate?
Not really, IMHO. Implementing this one would make the other one obsolete. But implementing the RFE in issue 104734 wouldn't solve this one completely.
sorry for ranting, but I cannot understand that this issue has been open for so long - OpenOffice is already used in academia (at least for simple papers), and multiple indices are not such an esoteric feature. For OOo to be taken seriously by more advanced users, index handling has to be extended to a general useful form instead of the current hard coded variant with lots of unnecessary and arbitrary limitations... I could live without animated rulers and whiz-bang bullet points, but features like these would *really* be needed...
This issue is very old! ODF is the problem?
> Not really, IMHO. > Implementing this one would make the other one obsolete. > But implementing the RFE in issue 104734 > wouldn't solve this one completely. @mba @hughg I apologize. I have confused. This Issue is to solve a problem with alphabetical indexes. The issue 104734, instead on "user-defined" (they are more similar to TOC) Not address the problems of compatibility with MS Word MS field codes (Index entry) { XE "Index 1" \f "b" } { XE "Index 2" \f "c" } MS field codes (TOC) { TC "User-defined 1" \f C \l "1" } { TC "User-defined 2" \f D \l "1" } I apologize again.
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Created attachment 70238 [details] test case
Is very urgent solve this issue (IMHO)! MSWORD enables this feature and when you import a lot of information is lost! Case 1 field codes of two indices: {INDEX \e " " \c "2" \z "1033" \f “a”} and {INDEX \e " " \c "2" \z "1033" \f “b”} The two indices are completely lost! Case 2 field codes of two indices: {INDEX \e " " \c "2" \z "1033" \f “b”} and {INDEX \e " " \c "2" \z "1033" \f “c”} The first index is lost. The second index is duplicated. I attach two sample documents. Case 1 http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/70237/CASE_1.doc Case 2 http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/70238/CASE_2.doc
My Two Cents: 1)Click Insert > Indexes and Tables > Entry. The Insert Index Entry dialog box. In the Entry box should be possible to manually enter a tag to group Index Entries. Before of word or phrase shown in the Entry box add the "<=Name Index>" tag. Examples: <=a> <=b> <=c> and so on In the Entry box: <=a>Biology <=a>Chemistry <=b>Lavoisier 2)Click Insert > Indexes and Tables > Indexes and Tables. The Insert Index/Table dialog box. In the Index/Table page should be possible to select the tags of the Index Entries from the drop-down list in the Create index/table area. Example: Create index/table for |Entire document| |Chapter |(the drop-down list) |Index=a | |Index=b | And so on 3)Finally, the concordance file would need a new column tags. Search term;Alternative entry;1st Key;2nd Key;Match Case;Word only;Tags Examples: Biology;;Science;;0;1;a Chemistry;;Science;;0;1;a Lavoisier;;;;0;1;b Thanks
Hi, my job is to write technical manuals and to me this issue is essential! Even in the context of academic institutions, Indexing tools are a must - have for users - and I would very much enjoy being able to use OOo Writer for my work-related purposes as well! Best of luck Jonathan
Hi all. I've just voted for this issue, but then something rang a bell. I wrote an article about the problem some time ago, with suggestions as to how it could be improved, including suggestions for changes to OpenDocument format. Unfortunately, the site with the article has been down, but I just got it working again, so here's the link: http://computerstuff.jdarx.info/content/how-improve-openofficeorg-writer-indexing Hope this helps someone :).
To -> wayland To read your article I had to use google cache: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:D2tXYzTk98QJ:computerstuff.jdarx.info/content/how-improve-openofficeorg-writer-indexing+http://computerstuff.jdarx.info/content/how-improve-openofficeorg-writer-indexing&hl=fr&gl=fr&strip=1 (Maybe it's better if you create an attachment) I have never written a line of code, but I need to understand if ODF 1.2 is able to support essential functions as: Cross-reference (Issue 104691), Formatting-specific index entries (Issue 106199), Sort ordering (Issue 114115) etc Or you must change the ODF standard? Because this means that there are not open-source word processor capable of creating good alphabetical indexes :-( MS Word has these features as well as the much-criticized OOXML... Xavier
I also think this should be allowed - it's been a long time since it would first brought up. Would it really be that hard to allow sorting in user-defined indexes?
In reply to x_d: I'm not sure this is needed for *this* particular feature, but a lot of the indexing limitations arise from the limits to the ODF format. Hopefully it's something they can fix sometime.
I would like to second what all the scientists have said, except I'm a law-student. When filing briefs with the court, you must make a "Table of Authorities" which is an index of all cases, and statutes that your brief relies on. These both appear under the section "Table of Authorities" but mechanically, they are two indexes that each must be sorted alphabetically, and the entries must be bunched together, so that if I cite 35 USC 271(a) on page 2, 35 USC 282 on page 10, and 35 USC 271(b) on page 20. It should appear as: 35 USC 271.............2,20 35 USC 282...............10 I would like to use OOo when I get out of school, but without at least a work-around, I cant.
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Ok, so it's the year 2018, we have bitcoins, virtual reality and a toddler became a president. How difficult can it be to implement this awesome feature? I've been holding back for 16 (SIXTEEN) years with my MS Word purchase hoping the alphabetical multi-index would get implemented in OO. I can't wait much longer for this feature as I really need to finish my dissertation on "The neural effects and defects in the state of disquiet through delayed UX enhancements in open-source applications." which I actually meant to finish in 2002. So please, do it.