Issue 64480 - Dialogs are shrinked with KHmer localization
Summary: Dialogs are shrinked with KHmer localization
Alias: None
Product: ui
Classification: Code
Component: code (show other issues)
Version: OOo 2.0.2
Hardware: All Linux, all
: P3 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: AOO PleaseHelp
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Reported: 2006-04-18 18:12 UTC by pmladek
Modified: 2017-05-20 11:31 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Issue Type: DEFECT
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2007-05-16 16:55 UTC, rene
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2007-05-16 16:55 UTC, rene
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2007-05-16 16:56 UTC, rene
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Description pmladek 2006-04-18 18:12:33 UTC
Khmer fonts are big (probably by definition). I will attach a sceeenshot that
shows how the dialog Tools/Options... is shrinked in the Khmer localization.

I got the screenshot in KDE with relolution 1280x1024.

Well, there is one bug in KDE. It should use the font "Khmer OS System" that was
designed for user interfaces and has a smaller line height than all the other
Khmer fonts. The font "Khmer OS System" is correctly prefered in VCL.xcu.

Though, I got feedback that the dialog is shrinked even with the font "Khmer OS
System" when you use lover resolution, for example 1024x786. Then the only
possibility is to lower the FontScaling in

I am also not sure if Tools/Options... is the largest dialog.

I think that OOo should better support this situation:

1. It should not shrink the dialogs.
2. It would provide language dependent FontScalling setting, so we could set
lower scaling for Khmer localization by default. However, I am not sure. Maybe,
it should be solved on the system side for all applications.
3. ???

See also the issue #51436. Especially the comment by  javiersola. He wrote that
the Khmer fonts are too big because there were problems with mixing English and
Khmer texts.
Comment 1 pmladek 2006-04-18 18:21:02 UTC
I added the reporter of the issue #51436 to CC. He seems to have some more
experiences with the Khmer localization. It would be great if he could comment
on how this problem is important.
Comment 2 Oliver Specht 2006-05-29 07:57:30 UTC
Reassigned to hdu, target set to OOo later
Comment 3 lists 2006-06-02 00:14:03 UTC
add cc Jens
Comment 4 rene 2007-05-16 16:54:15 UTC
I have a similar/the same problem. See the screenshot to-be-attached..
Comment 5 rene 2007-05-16 16:55:19 UTC
Created attachment 45146 [details]
screenshot 1
Comment 6 rene 2007-05-16 16:55:50 UTC
Created attachment 45147 [details]
screenshot 2
Comment 7 rene 2007-05-16 16:56:20 UTC
Created attachment 45148 [details]
screenshot 3
Comment 8 rene 2007-05-16 16:59:35 UTC
screenshot 3 (km-big3.png) shows it the most interesting way. This also happens
in the documents (like already told in issue 51436 for calc).

This also was brought to the attention of khmeros but it didn't result in
something.. (
Comment 9 lists 2007-05-20 13:45:06 UTC
Hi Rene,

For some reason I just got all the messages related to this issue together.

I am looking at all the images, but I still do not understand what you mean by
"the dialog is shrinked". Can you please explain it in a different way?
Comment 10 rene 2007-05-20 15:31:07 UTC
javeersola: I didn't write the shrinked thing, but I would thnink pmladek menat
it  is "the dialog contents are too big so things are stripped off", I ask
pmladek wherther he meant the bug I was observing too and then added my screenshots.

Thanks for looking; the people on khmeros seem to think it's mostly fine which I
don't; and we have some people who want km reenabled in Debian (which was
disabled for some other reason, but I won't reenable it until it's a bit usable...)
Comment 11 lists 2007-06-09 03:46:58 UTC
Rene: Khmer requires very large amounts of vertical space. We (KhmerOS) have
done everything possible to make fonts that use less space, but you always must
reserve space for at least 6 lines of paralel writing, as it might occur in
Khmer. One main writing line, three for subscripts and two for superscripts.
This results in lines that are very separated from each other, but there is no
way around it. The same problem occurs in newspapers, books and any publication
or website in Khmer. Sometimes lines are placed closer together, but the result
is signs from two adjacent lines crossing or touching each other.

You cannot either use smaller text, because Khmer has very small subscripts that
must be recognisable, and they would not be in smaller text.

It is not a question of Ok or not Ok, we do not have a way around it. We use
Khmer for OOo, KDE, Mozilla, the Debian Installer and a large number of
applications... and it works for us, most of the time. When it does not we try
to find a way around it, but reducing text or getting lines closer to each other
are not a solution.

I don't think that this issue can be solved within OpenOffice.
Comment 12 inlawcada 2010-11-11 03:19:09 UTC
Created attachment 74118
Comment 13 Marcus 2017-05-20 11:31:42 UTC
Reset assigne to the default "".