Issue 66319 - Image titles for documents in different languages
Summary: Image titles for documents in different languages
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: editing (show other issues)
Version: OOo 2.0.1
Hardware: PC Windows XP
: P3 Trivial with 3 votes (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Keywords: needmoreinfo, oooqa
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Reported: 2006-06-11 19:03 UTC by officista
Modified: 2013-02-07 22:42 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Step-by-step guide of issue (45.60 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2006-11-30 21:06 UTC, officista
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Description officista 2006-06-11 19:03:21 UTC
The original document was written by an english user on an english OOo platform.
It contains images with titles.
I (german OOo) want to modify this document and need to add images. Document
language and local settings are set to english. Adding a title (german
"Beschriftung") to the image creates the title "Abbildung", numbering is correct
with all the existing "Image" titles . Example: "Image 1: afdsfasdf", "Abbildung
2: dsafdsf" (that's the one I inserted), "Image 3: fdsafdsf". 
If I force the insertion of the title "Image", numbering is wrong. Example:
"Image 1: afdsfasdf", "Image 1: dsafdsf" (that's the one I inserted), "Image 2:
Possible cause: translating the document to a german OOo platform, the title
"Image" is translated to "Abbildung".
Work around: Insertion of title "Abbildung" then change this title to "Image".
Proposed behaviour: no translation of titles ("Beschriftungen"). So if a
numbered title was called "Image" it shall keept that name and not be
translated. But I wonder, there must have been a reason why this has been inserted.
Example document at "".
Comment 1 michael.ruess 2006-06-12 11:16:02 UTC
Reassigned to SBA.
Comment 2 ronnystandtke 2006-08-15 15:32:56 UTC
I (German user as well) just want to add that this is not only a problem when 
you have to modify a document that was originally written in English but also 
when you want to create an English document with a German OOo.
I always have to change "Abbildung" to "Image" (or "Fig." for scientific 
texts) when creating English docs with OOo.
Comment 3 kpalagin 2006-11-29 12:58:50 UTC
can't you regulate numbering with Autocaption (r-click the image, Caption, 
Autocaption, "Add captions automatically when inserting" and then specifying 
whatever you want in "Category")?
If you are talking about something else please provide step-by-step repro 
instructions (preferably with screenshots).
Comment 4 officista 2006-11-30 21:04:40 UTC
Here is a document with the step-by-step approach.
Please let me know, when I can help further in clarifications.

Comment 5 officista 2006-11-30 21:06:16 UTC
Created attachment 41027 [details]
Step-by-step guide of issue
Comment 6 kpalagin 2006-12-02 06:47:07 UTC
Confirming with OO 2.0.4 on WinXP.
Comment 7 Rainer Bielefeld 2007-01-11 09:08:00 UTC
I see the problem (it also causes trouble vor me), but currently I do not agree
with the proposals for a solution.

Unfortunately there is no "document language" (or is there agap in my
knowledge?), you can define different languages for every letter in the
document, and if you have an image "fit to page", how shell the language be

I started <>
for creation of a suitable specification. We shoud find a soulution there and
then insert the specification here in the issue. 
Comment 8 Rainer Bielefeld 2007-01-12 08:16:17 UTC
Currently I believe that this problem will vanish if you use an OOo  multi
language installation and switch to the desired language. Anybody out there who
can confirm that everything works fine with 'Issue.odt'? Currently I can not
check this because it seems impossible to get a multi language installation for
my outdated OOo 2.0.2.

Installing an additional language seems to be the only way to get all
information concerning required texts automatically; it is inaceptable to pack
all those information (templates ...) to a one language installation set,
because operation of all those options will become confusing.

Of course it is not very comfortable if you have to change the language of the
UI completely, especially because shortcuts might not work as in your usual
language's UI. For this an enhancement request might be useful.
Comment 9 officista 2007-01-12 17:26:25 UTC
Just tried multilingual installation (for some strange reason my OOo 2.0.4
Ubuntu has that feature). It's a work-around though I am doing sometimes funny
things (using the keystrokes I am used to from my german version). Especially
the decimal-point/comma and date-format are slowing me down. So, agreed, this
feature would be an enhancement not a bug-fix.

Concerning the document language, try the following:
Menu: Tools > Options > Language Settings > Languages > default languages for
check "For the current document only"
The help tells, that this is the document language. It would be convenient to be
able to apply the settings according to this value. 
Maybe an add-in that allows the download of the assotiated files for the
document language (same as spell-checker etc.) would do it. I personally do not
need Zulu, and probably others do not need German.

Comment 10 stefan.baltzer 2007-02-23 13:39:04 UTC
SBA: reassigned to requirements.
Comment 11 mini 2007-09-25 11:05:29 UTC
I just got hit by this issue - it's unacceptable that I can't create an English
document with my swedish UI.

Can anyone tell me if how the "multilingual install" workaround would work? I'm
on ubuntu, and I can have multiple language packs installed, but I don't see how
that helps...
Comment 12 officista 2007-09-25 17:58:37 UTC
If you are running Ubuntu it's easy: just add (e.g. via Synaptic) the packages<your language>. Don't forget the spellcheck etc. best check
all those packages that end with your language.
Actually another workaround (which I have chosen due to some bugs in Ubuntu OOo)
is installing the english version and a german language pack - just for the
Please vote for this issue (it's still a pain to me, living in a multilinguistic
Comment 13 mini 2007-09-25 19:11:19 UTC
hillerd: I still don't understand - I have all the swedish and english packs
installed. How does that help me create an document with english content
(figures etc.)?
Comment 14 officista 2007-09-25 20:50:42 UTC
I should have added: in > Menu Tools (extras in german) > Options
(optionen) > language settings (Spracheinstellungen) > languages (Sprachen) >
User interface (Benutzeroberfläche). Select your language, restart OOo.