Issue 66922 - Impress slow to update font info when clicking on text boxes
Summary: Impress slow to update font info when clicking on text boxes
Alias: None
Product: Impress
Classification: Application
Component: code (show other issues)
Version: OOo 2.0.2
Hardware: All All
: P5 (lowest) Trivial with 2 votes (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
QA Contact:
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Reported: 2006-07-02 00:29 UTC by enmane
Modified: 2017-05-20 11:08 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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Issue Type: FEATURE
Latest Confirmation in: ---
Developer Difficulty: ---

Sample Impress sheet w/various font sizes (9.90 KB, application/msword)
2006-07-03 19:17 UTC, enmane
no flags Details
add support for FontPitch (10.64 KB, patch)
2009-09-15 08:44 UTC, dtardon
no flags Details | Diff

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Description enmane 2006-07-02 00:29:28 UTC
there is a significant lag of around .75-1 second of lag time when clicking on
one text box with one font size/type and another one.  This makes editing fonts
very cumbersome as you have to wait for the text info to appear before you can
edit it.  This slows down my productivity and makes me want to use another
program.  I'm sitting behind a 2ghz centrino so I KNOW it isn't my PC (1gb of RAM).
  Can you improve the user experience by improving these tiems - it's ridiculous
that a presentation program 8 yrs ago on a machine of the same vintage had a
better user experience, with respect to responsiveness, than what is currently
offered by Impress.  Please stop with the bloatware and streamline your code.
Comment 1 wolframgarten 2006-07-03 07:43:03 UTC
Comment 2 christian.guenther 2006-07-03 12:34:54 UTC
Please attach a document to reproduce the bug.
Comment 3 enmane 2006-07-03 19:17:35 UTC
Created attachment 37471 [details]
Sample Impress sheet w/various font sizes
Comment 4 enmane 2006-07-03 19:22:31 UTC
I've attached an Impress document with various font sizes.  Just click from one
font box to another and see how long it takes the font bar to update the font
size.  It's a good 1/2 second - at least.  This becomes a significant problem
for me when I'm creating presentations with different font sizes.  Needless to
say, with a 2ghz Pentium M this should NOT be the case.  
  How is it that this couldn't be replicated on your own such that you needed an
example document?  Sometimes I wonder if you guys even USE the product that you
are promoting.  MS Office 95 was faster on a pentium.  Please please please stop
with the bloatware.  The original 5.2 version (when you bought Stardivision)
worked 10x faster than what you currently have - what have you been doing? 
Makes me wonder if the Sun/MS agreements are working against us, LOL.
Comment 5 christian.guenther 2006-07-04 09:07:48 UTC
Set to new and change the target and the prio
Comment 6 christian.guenther 2006-07-04 09:09:00 UTC
please have a look.
Comment 7 enmane 2006-07-04 10:48:35 UTC
Seriously, how can you call this a "feature" - it's a defect

from your site:
Defect is a problem with an existing feature that is either not developed to
spec or does not work as designed. These are often referred to as "bugs."

If it used to work quickly and no longer does then guess what?  It's a defect. 
I guess they made it work fast before by accident and your slowing it down now
makes it a valuable "feature".

And I love "OOo Later" which should be properly named "Whenever we feel like
getting to it" or "nicety but not really important" or "we really don't care"

I wouldn't be so pissed if I wasn't such an OO promoter but I'm starting to lean
heavily toward MS Office as you can get it for about $55 OEM and it works FAST
and has TONS more features.  
Comment 8 clippka 2006-07-04 15:42:32 UTC
Seriously, if you don't like free beer, find another one that spend his money on
a round or buy your own
Comment 9 enmane 2006-07-04 17:59:09 UTC
Right, and that argument holds for Staroffice (not free) how.

It's amazing how coders have absolutely no business sense.  It's about VALUE
which is why BMWs and Mercedes sell so well even though they are pricey vehicles
- people perceive them to be a value for their dollar.

Even free things have a value to them - just because it costs NOTHING doesn't
mean that it has infinite value.

At the price pt of $200 MS isn't a value compared to OO but at $55 it becomes a
much greater value.  Now with MS Off. 2007 coming out it'll be a great value at
$75 and OO will be left in the dust with productivity, ease of use, and speed.

Free my eye - how much time do I spend finding your niggling bugs and reporting
problems.  How is this FREE?  I can attribute a value to a great many things and
back in 2000 Stardivision had a VALUABLE product and it only took Sun six years
to reduce that value (actually, they did it in 2).

1) Cheap or free does not mean infinite value
2) People ARE willing to pay for things so long as it has value
3) Sun has been steadily improving the "value" of OO after drastically reducing
the value of it after the purchase of Stardivision and it currently stands,
IMHO, as a net negative from when they purchased it - slower, buggier, less GUI

I've probably been using this package for a LOT longer than you have been
working on it as I go back to the original StarDivision days and I KNOW what
they had for a product and I KNOW what you have.  I also worked with them on
issues and NEVER had to deal with responses like yours even though I got it for

I can get MS Office for close to nothing but I'm choosing to help OOo but thanks
to your replies - I'll reconsider.
Comment 10 clippka 2006-07-04 18:25:27 UTC
I don't know how much time you spend finding issues, according to my query you
reported three.

And no one said this is a feature, both CGU as a qa guy and I as a developer
think that this is an issue, lets call it bug. And I respect that this is one of
your personal issues and if you take a look at the other issues, everyone has
theire favorite issue.

Now I fixed a lot of issues, back to the days when only Marco told us what to
do, so I know one developer can only fix so much issues and implement so many
features a day. So yes I agree your issue is a bug, but as long as we have open
stability issues, open interoperability issues, open ease of use issues, open
missing importent feature issues I'm very sorry that this issue is targeted for
Office Later. I could target it for something else but that would be unrealistic.

On a side note, since we are not complete blockheads, we already work on
something that will enhance programability of the impress user interface. For
that we kill most of the bloatware that where introduced to the OpenOffice code
during the days of StarDivision and replace it with a streamlined and very
modern Model-View-Controller concept. When this is finished, your performance
issue should be gone. But thats a great deal of work and I can't say when it
will be finished.

So I'm not sure if you are personally pissed of by sun, but currently I'm
sitting in my office in hamburg without air condition at currently 34 grad
celcius, making unpaid overtime work to make impress a better product. And
because of issues like this I'm thinking if I should spend my personal unpaid
time for something else...
Comment 11 enmane 2006-07-05 01:23:43 UTC
I spend quite a bit of time going back and forth between the several different
versions that I have installed to confirm/deny issues that used to work but no
longer do.

Do you miss Marco too?   :D

I'm glad to hear that there is a plan to improve the speeds but I do have 1
question.  If StarDivision's code was also bloatware then why did it run SO much
faster than todays code?  Granted, it might have been bloated (from a coder's
perspective) but it was good enough (from a user's perspective) and today's code
just isn't good enough from either perspective.

I'm not pissed at Sun but I wish that they left the product alone - as it ran
FAST - and just added features before tearing it all apart.
Just to be clear, the complaints aren't meant to be directed at the coders as I
know that you do what you are told but more so toward the philosophy and
direction which is clearly management's responsibility.

I'm sorry to hear about your working conditions - especially when you could be
watching the world cup in person and having a pint, LOL.  Take care and take it
easy.  The comments weren't directed at you but more the company's closed
philosophy and direction of the package.  When I had the original packages, I
thought "wow, this is great - imagine if some money were put behind it" then Sun
bought it and I thought "OMG, this is going to kill MS Office" but alas there
haven't been many feature additions over 6 yrs and the program runs MUCH slower
than original so I feel like a deflated airbag and I don't have much, if any,
enthusiasm for a project that I strongly supported in the past.  I realize that
this is out of your control.  Keep up the good work and here's to hoping that OO
catches MS Office in the next 5 yrs.  MS knows how to copy and many of the
features that used to be exclusive to OO are showing up in MS Off 2007.  
Comment 12 dtardon 2009-09-15 08:44:26 UTC
Created attachment 64761 [details]
add support for FontPitch
Comment 13 dtardon 2009-09-15 09:10:57 UTC
Please ignore the previous attachment: it was meant for bug 64671...
Comment 14 Unknown 2010-10-23 07:07:05 UTC
Created attachment 72380
Comment 15 Marcus 2017-05-20 11:08:58 UTC
Reset assigne to the default "".