Issue 71486 - The "mouse visible during presentation" property is not saved with the doc
Summary: The "mouse visible during presentation" property is not saved with the doc
Alias: None
Product: Impress
Classification: Application
Component: ui (show other issues)
Version: OOo 2.0.4
Hardware: All Windows XP
: P3 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Reported: 2006-11-13 12:58 UTC by scagni
Modified: 2017-05-20 11:11 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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Issue Type: DEFECT
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Description scagni 2006-11-13 12:58:02 UTC
Reading other discussions I got the idea that a default disappearing mouse was
chosen for Impress presetations, but that you could choose to have it visible
with the corresponding presentation option.
However I have to reset this option everytime I open the file, since the choice
is not saved with the file. This is of course unfortunate, since I often forget
to switch it on beforer starting a presentation.
The "mouse visible" is an important property when using presentations as
university lectures in quantitative sciences like I do, as it is frequently
necessary to point at specific formulas or passages in a slide while discussing it.
Thanks for the attention, Andrea
Comment 1 wolframgarten 2006-11-13 13:12:00 UTC
Prio changed, reassigned.
Comment 2 christian.guenther 2006-11-13 14:39:22 UTC
set to new and change the target.
Comment 3 christian.guenther 2006-11-13 14:41:08 UTC
I can reproduce the bug.
Please have a look.
Comment 4 clippka 2006-12-05 17:41:00 UTC
I do not accept this as a bug, it works as designed.

Having the mouse cursor visible during a slideshow depends on the hardware
setting where you hold the slideshow. Therefore it depends on the hardware OOo
is installed on. F.e. in one setting you use a large beamer and need the mouse
to show things on screen, in another setting you use a smaller display and can
point out things with your finger, so you don't need the mouse button.

I see your point, but if we change this there will be other people who will
argue "I don't want to see that mouse pointer during slideshow, each time I get
a new presentation I have to change this"
Comment 5 clippka 2006-12-05 17:41:59 UTC
Comment 6 scagni 2006-12-07 11:08:47 UTC
I am sorry to bother again, but sincerely I have difficulties in grasping the
meaning of the last post by cl. I beg  you PLEASE have a look at what follows.
FIRST point: 
the "mouse visibile during presentation" property is a local, individual file
property, right? I mean, it is NOT an application general property that you set
once and stays the same for any file you open, right? At least it SHOULD be,
since (as you correctly point out) not all presentations are shown on the same
"hardware" and context, so it is perfectly reasonable to desire a visible mouse
for your interactive lecture but not for you open distance presentation where
mouse should not be there.
SECOND point: 
I am certainly not pretending that the property is set "on" as default - let it
stay off as default, no problem. What I find very reasonable is that if a user
wants it to be "on" as default for a certain presentation, this can be set and
remembered by the file. What happens with my interactive presentations now is
that I usually rush into the classroom and start the presentation forgetting
about mouse visibility, and then I have to stop it, go set the property and then
restart it when I realize the mouse is not permanently visible!

IF - but only if - the property is actually an application property and it is
positively impossible to turn it into a specific file property (since the
setting is never saved it is not possible to understand which of the two is
true), then let it "OFF" by default, but let the user set it "on" permanently if
he wants to. This is of course second best to having a specific file property.
However I cannot see how a user that does never want the mouse visible could
protest: if he never switches it "on" he will never even know the possibility is
If you do not find all of the above sensible, then perhaps I am missing something.

Lastly - I know the rule "one problem, one issue", but let me say that the
"mouse as pen" option could benefit form a rethinking: the "pen" icon is way TOO
small, almost invisible; the color, transparency and width of the mark you draw
should be user-choosable (the present green is very light and the width is
really narrow); the line drawn is too irregular since it is mirrors the phisical
mouse movement: it should be possible to apply some kind of automatic smoother
to the line you draw. I never use the option as it is now but would instead if I
could configure it as above.
Thanks again for listening,
Comment 7 Martin Hollmichel 2007-11-09 17:19:06 UTC
set target from 2.x to 3.x according to
Comment 8 Marcus 2017-05-20 11:11:28 UTC
Reset assigne to the default "".